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Tuesday, September 5, 2017

Yankees (74-63) @ Orioles (70-68), Tuesday, 9/5/2017, 07:05p ET

Yankees: CC Sabathia (L): (121.1 IP, 3.71 ERA, 2.7 RA-9 WAR) vs. Orioles: Jeremy Hellickson (R): (34.1 IP, 6.55 ERA, 0.7 RA-9 WAR)

Lineups
Yankees
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF .256/.345/.425, 3.1 fWAR
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF .277/.412/.573, 5.7 fWAR
3. Starlin Castro (R) 2B .313/.349/.479, 1.8 fWAR
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS .289/.322/.474, 3.3 fWAR
5. Matt Holliday (R) DH .231/.322/.447, 0.1 fWAR
6. Greg Bird (L) 1B .144/.267/.278, -0.8 fWAR
7. Todd Frazier (R) 3B .220/.354/.386, 2.3 fWAR
8. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF .254/.335/.394, 0.9 fWAR
9. Austin Romine (R) C .213/.272/.289, -0.6 fWAR
Team Total: 15.8 fWAR

Orioles
1. Tim Beckham (R) SS .363/.388/.603, 3.2 fWAR
2. Manny Machado (R) 3B .272/.327/.497, 3.4 fWAR
3. Jonathan Schoop (R) 2B .306/.352/.539, 3.9 fWAR
4. Adam Jones (R) CF .279/.316/.472, 1.4 fWAR
5. Trey Mancini (R) LF .290/.337/.504, 1.3 fWAR
6. Mark Trumbo (R) DH .246/.300/.414, -0.5 fWAR
7. Chris Davis (L) 1B .224/.318/.443, 0.5 fWAR
8. Welington Castillo (R) C .300/.337/.518, 2.7 fWAR
9. Joey Rickard (R) RF .246/.280/.352, 0.4 fWAR
Team Total: 16.3 fWAR

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Make the Bosox default the games they used the Apple Watch to steal signs and that they won.

[1] Let us dream…

Most that will happen is a draft pick, probably not even that.

Make them wear a scarlet letter “C” like Peter Lorre in M.

This shows how much advanced technology is today.  It took 50 years to catch the 1951 Giants.  It only took a few days to catch the 2017 Red Sox.

[3] That, and maybe some pitchers with long memories will be dusting a few of those clowns next year with regularity.

If you were a Sox player, wouldn’t it be really fucking embarrassing to get caught using an electronic device to do something that many, many players can do with just their eyes and their wits? If you were an opposing player, wouldn’t you want to just call every guy on the Sox something derisive like “junior” or “champ” or “sport” from now on? Something you might call a monkey or a dog, instead of using the player’s actual name?

I like that the Townies are throwing out the “No, YOU steal signs” defense. Sanchez missed the boat in his appeal by not trying “I’m not touching you, I’m not touching you.”

Rob Manfred saying Red Sox didn’t break any rules stealing signs but violated rules for using electronic devices. He should just suspend the Yankees and have them forfeit their entire season and give the Red Sox owners and fans what they really want. Manfred is a clown. Just like Goodell.

[7] If he wanted to copy them he should’ve said “I’m touching you, you’re touching you”.
So we both get suspended.

Did they bring Brady in to destroy the incriminating Apple Watches?

[7] Their counter accusation is hilarious too. Are they alleging the Yankees have a “secret” broadcast camera? Or just that they are using the CF camera that every broadcast has?

[8] To be fair, that is technically true. Stealing signs is perfectly legal, if against the unwritten rules. Using any sort of technology to aid in stealing signs is illegal.

[11] Manfred looked like he was sitting on a conference podium in Fenway when he made those statements. Nothing like seeing the guy who oversees the league telling me the Red Sox didn’t technically break a rule while sitting in their home stadium with dunkin donuts logos all behind him.

Spygate. Deflategate ... Applegate.

Hilarious that one of the guys apparently on video receiving the stolen signs is Pedroia.

Anything on a start time?

[13] There are a whole bunch of people named Applegate where I grew up.

[14] Family business.

from ESPN: “Dave Dombrowski said he believes sign stealing is part of the game, nothing wrong with it. Typically, says Red Sox president of baseball ops, it’s dealt with privately between general managers. Guessed he has had about 10 such episodes in 40-year career.”

Poorly written of course, but if its accurate it makes Dombrowski out to be a complete moron.  He doesn’t understand what his team is being punished for?

Stealing signs - that’s ok.

Using electronic recording devices on the field or in the dugout to steal signs - not ok. 

A five year-old can understand this.

He’s a townie, Selig gave him a get out of trouble card.

Does Todd have a lot of trouble with inside pitches as well as most others?

Dombrowski just sounds so, so stupid. Even if he’s pissed that the Yankees “tattled” on him in his opinion - “They tattled” is not going to go over as an excuse, dude.

It was too much to expect the Jays to hold the Sox down two games in a row.

The Rays helped the Yankees out, though, taking their second in a row from the Twins.

Blue jay chokers. Second time this week. O’s on Sunday too

The Red Sox get the A’s in Fenway after the Blue Jays. That’s not good.

It’s weird how well the Didi as cleanup hitter thing has worked.

Have the Yankees ever even had a base runner against Osuna?

Six spot is nice.

Osuna has only given up three runs against the Yankees in his entire three-year career. He’s never blown a save against the Yankees. 12 hits in 92 career plate appearances against him. One home run.

28 About what I thought.

Did Osuna lose his job or something at one point? I know the Yankees have had comebacks against the Blue Jays in the last couple of years, but I guess they didn’t involve Osuna.

Oakland putting up quite a fight against the Halos. Bases loaded, two runs in and no outs in the third for the Angels.

Kay talking about the Yankeeography (?) he did with Sterling and just can’t bring himself to say anything nice about the man.  Kay’s finest hour.

Long leash Binder.

What did Girardo expect from Sabathia, and after a delayed start?

Been a while since the Yankees had a big inning and then forgot to score the remainder of the game. Stay tuned.

Walking Joey Rickard, ungood.

I still can’t believe how badly they’ve broken Kahnle.

[38]
If we want to blame NYA, we’ll have to give them kudos for efficiency. He was bad since his first appearance. By which I mean it’s hard to rationally put the blame on NYA.

Couldn’t score against their D pen don’t see it happening against their A pen.

[38] Seems factual about Kahnle. The Yankees throw the fewest fastballs in MLB. It may work for some, but there is no one-size fits all.

But what about the newest Yankees? Jaime Garcia and Tommy Kahnle have both come to the team and have dropped their fastball usage rapidly — by about 20 percentage points so far since arriving in New York. Both have struggled relative to their earlier performance. Is the approach failing them?

One thing you’ll notice is that both pitchers have seen their walk rates go up and their strikeout rates go down. That’s not just luck. It may be a simple reason: the fastball is their best pitch.

Kahnle’s regression isn’t huge, as his walk rate has increased from 5.0% with the White Sox to 6.8% with the Yankees. But his strikeout and ground-ball rates have gone the wrong way, and it may be because his fastball is a ball 29% less often than his slider. The whiff rate on Kahnle’s fastball is three times the league average. The whiff rate on his slider is 1.3 times better than league average.

Just when you think the Yankees are done sucking they pull you back back in.

Yeah, the O’s actually have a surprisingly good back of the bullpen.

As for Garcia, from the same Fangraphs article:

As for Garcia, sure, the slider gets more whiffs than his sinker, so you could see the appeal of the Yankee approach, maybe. That slider is also a ball 10% more often than his sinker, a ground ball 70% less often, and a home run more than twice as often this year.

Subjectively, Garcia relies on cutting up, chopping, and manipulating his fastball to make things work. He’s previously spoken to me about the importance of ground balls:

 

One of the ways that Garcia achieves these grounders is by having an array of fastballs. “I do different things with them,” Garcia said of his hard stuff. “A four-seamer that sometimes cuts and I can make it move a little bit, and the same thing with the sinker, some move a little bit more than others.”

You’d have to go back to 2012 to get a ground-ball rate worse than the one he’s produced so far with the Yankees, and he hasn’t gotten a corresponding boost to either his whiffs or strikeouts.

[41] Don, interesting. You’re right - pitch calls could be established from day 1.

41 Yeah that’s INSANITY, how can the pitching coach not identify each pitcher’s strengths and tailor the approach to that?

Why didn’t Binder use Chapman and Warren in Sunday’s win instead of Shreve and Gallegos? Neither has pitched in a while and either might be needed if not today then soon?

I bet Kratz can bunt, at least.

ah Jesus fuck. Strange time to concede this game. Might as well Kratz pitch the 8th, no?

get ready for Mark Trumbo to launch this ball over the warehouse

Trumbo gonna make this look like a bloop job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g30kWIWe81o

eh Trumbo hit it hard. Like Chapman’s look here. Getting bailed out of XBHs by the Toddfather

ok chris gonna SMOKE this one. Only question is whether THROUGH the right field wall or over.

Aroldis, get your pistol unholstered, because you gonna need to do some firing when you give up this HR.

I tell you what. A good inning for Chapman. Only needed help from the Toddfather and the home plate ump for two of the three outs.

Look who showed up.  LOL

Imagine if Chapman got back to his old self. That’d be cool.

Hopefully that wasn’t the ol’ “Have the set-up guys be good so that when the closer blows it you don’t have the other good relievers available anymore” routine.

[56] Well until Torreyes gets to bat, I got nothing to say about this team. And my previous whipping boy, Chase Headley, actually proved to be a serviceable player with a sterling work ethic and an unimpeachably generic personality. So…

I do like Didi, though. And he’s my daughter’s “top favorite” even though I got her a Judge shirt. My son’s favorite is Jacob deGrom. Sorry.

Buck was saving Z Britton for that Wild Card Game, but if Jack McDowell had been available, he would have gone to him.

you really ought to have had Tyler Austin take this AB. Bird is never going to hit Britton, and would have been nicer to get him out after a solid base hit.

or Chase Headley

Michael Kay is obsessed with the phrase “long day’s journey into night.” Which makes me think that MK has never read or seen the Eugene O’Neill play. Unless Dellin is going to end the night lying on the mound babbling in a morphine stupor.

Way to go Donaldson, get ejected arguing strikes in the 18th goddamn inning.

[63]  Um…probably?

[61] [62] Genius at work.

[67] hey, I’m a player’s manager.

Nice BB there.

fucking pathetic

Nice job Betances. Suckitude never ends with this team.

Bad luck, or just bad?

As I said, this team is easy to dislike, for any number of reasons. Girardo amongst those reasons.

I looked it up and expected to see Andino with the walk off.

Greatest pen in history except nobody is lights out. There’s no Mo, no Eck, no Kimbrel, no Britton. Betances has given up home runs in back to back games and walks far too many.  And of course once it got to be a ONE RUN GAME there was no way in hell they could win.  NONE?

Of course the failure to add to a 6 run inning against the dregs of the Baltimore pen tho it shouldn’t have been even necessary is emblematic of this team. And it would be nice to see Judge get a big hit late in a close game like tonight. One time.!

Tonight’s loss bad luck or bad suck? 15-24 in one run games. Some bad luck but way more bad suck. 15-24 You have to work hard to be that bad in one run games

[75] Judge get a big hit late? Can anyone recall the last time that happened?

Frankly, they need to stop playing him every day. Oh, BB’s, right.

[74] I can’t stand that I expect one of these great relievers to blow every one-run lead.  How the Farns can Betances dick around with a batter in front of Machado with 2 outs and nobody on? I can’t understand how this collection of talent can consistently give up runs in so many games for so many months and still have “great” numbers overall. Its fucking ponderous…

Is there any reliever you trust in a playoff game with a one or two run lead? Maybe Robertson? Maybe? If you compare him to everyone else?

Can we see what Chad Green can do in the 9th?

Well, at least the red sox and angels will stay bur—oh. Oh.

[77] I don’t recall Judge getting a big hit after the 7th inning one time this year.  We really need Clint “the Red Gary Sheffield” Frazier back.  That kid would have hit five HRs in Camden Yards over these past two games.

(props to my pal Beau on the West Coast for the Sheffield comp)

I can’t believe Frazier’s injury has been this severe. Dude’s been out a month. At least he finally starts his rehab assignment on Wednesday.

Well, at least the red sox and angels will stay bur—oh. Oh.

I legit don’t know what word you were going there for the gag. Buried?

[79] Sox will point to tonight’s win & Yankees’ loss as the turning point to their season after they were the helpless victims of the alt-left false-flag Yankees Applegate scandal.  And Donald Trump will officially renounce his NY citizenship when he invites them to White Power House, showering them with praise as he blames Obama for letting Eli Manning beat the Patriots 2x in the Superbowl because some of the referees were undercover BLM operatives, and then he will claim that Bill Russell faked all those stories of Boston residents burning crosses on his front yard while Russell was earning “participation trophies” during all those Celtics titles back when America was “truly, bigly great”.  Sounds about right…

23 blown saves for the best bullpen in the game. The pen is deep but is there ANYBODY you feel really good about pitching in the 9th with a one run lead. Wthout Chapman there is no true top notch closer like Kimbrel or Britton or Jansen on this team. And geez Binder is so erratic with his quick hooks or long leashes. He stayed with CC too long.  Isn’t that why we have a six man pen???

[81] crack Yankees medical staff - at least someone associated with this team is consistent.

A sign of a team mired in failure is blowing a five run lead while your competition is losing 2-0 in the 9th. The stink of death is on this team.

I can’t understand how this collection of talent can consistently give up runs in so many games for so many months and still have “great” numbers overall. Its fucking ponderous…

They each take turns, so that’s why they all have good numbers still. But invariably, ONE of them is going to fuck up in the game. They’ve literally had three games since D-Rob and Kahnle were acquired that the pen has entered in the 6th inning or earlier and pitched the rest of the game without giving up a run in a Yankee win (when the Yankees are losing and there is no pressure, they’re all lights out, which also helps all of their stats). And two of those games were against the Mets.

[84] Yeah, insisting on Sabathia in the sixth set the entire thing in motion.

And no XBH by the fearsome lineup.

Ninth inning on the road with a one run lead in the wild card game who do you want pitching? I don’t have a clue.

[84] Yes to everything - CC too long and I don’t trust any one of these guys to get a big out with the season on the line.  Maybe Robertson like I said earlier, but that endorsement is more like “he is less likely to suck than anyone else”.  Green maybe?

The shittiest thing about this pen is that Betances cannot ever seem to throw his FB for strikes.  Its surprising that so many hitters buckle when he throws a breaking ball.  Doesn’t it seem like opposing teams should always look for a breaking ball with him and just forget about the FB?

[89] D-Rob, I guess, but yeah, it’s slim pickings. However, there is a reasonable chance that Chapman could be straightened out by the playoffs.

Betances can be a great pitcher, but he’s never going to be that guy who you’re going to trust in the big spot.

[90] Batters tend to do just that, try to sit on the breaking ball.

88 Where’s Adam Warren, the sixth seemed like the spot.

Playoffs? With a lead in the ninth? LOL

[92] Warren seems to have vanished?

Adam Warren’s given up runs in four of his last five appearances. There might be something wrong with him, too.

[81 again]  Does Clint really need rehab starts? Bring him back now.

Hopefully it doesn’t rain out tomorrow so we can get the Sanchez suspension over with, since he is clearly the most dangerous bat we have right now.

Finally, TRO hitting .400 the past two weeks, batting 8th.  Ponderous…

Does Clint really need rehab starts?

Yes.

[95] Yeah, Warren has been a puzzle.  Hopefully no Yankee doctor tries to look at him - his career will be over.

[97] You can’t rehab “rage”.  Rage simply is.

93 I could see backing in to the 2nd WC and blowing a ninth inning lead. Would be the perfect ending and well deserved. Pythag don’t mean shit Bill.

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