from last thread:
I think many of you were wondering exactly the same as I. Why stay with Nova so long when he had no fastball control and no strikeout stuff and they to go to Qualls for so long was puzzling as well.  Seems like Joe was good with 2 out of 3 by about the 6th inning.  I guess the all star break wasn’t enough rest for some. Honestly, the thing with Phelps has me stumped.  He is a lot better option than Qualls and probably Eppley, so why are they so intent on developing him into a starter at this point in the year.  Is it simply a case of insurance if Garcia or someone goes down? With Sabbathia back this week, Nova, Hughes, Garcia and Kuroda in line to get starts why don’t they have Phelps ready in the pen for games like yesterday? I suppose its in case Sabathia proves unready?

I think SAS made a good point about not wanting to overwork the key relievers since they’d pitched in the first two games of the series.  I didn’t think Nova should have started the 7th though.  If Qualls started it maybe you could have gotten through the rest of the game with him, Logan and Rapada.

As far as Phelps, I fully support how the Yankees are handling him.  It makes sense to develop him as a starter in the big picture, especially if the Yankees are confident that Joba will be back within a month.  If Garcia ends up pitching poorly they can put Phelps in his spot, or if someone else gets hurt they have another option to plug in the rotation.

In 2013, with a rotation under contract of CC, Nova, Hughes, ?? and ?? it’ll be helpful to have an idea of whether or not Phelps can fill one of those ?? since Michael Pineda is a huge question mark and I don’t know if they’ll bring back Kuroda or Pettitte.

Girardi’s managing was a lot more annoying in retrospect once the offense made a game of it. I’ve made my peace with it, however. 2 out of 3 is better than Proctoring your key relievers.

2 out of 3 versus Angels always good - nice way to start the second half. 

As for the question - I’ll guess Toronto pitching staff versus Yankees (A) and versus Boston (B).

Did Girardi or anyone talk about Cano’s brain fart on the paths coming a couple of weeks after losing track of the number of outs?

As for the question - I’ll guess Toronto pitching staff versus Yankees (A) and versus Boston (B).

Yep, going back to 2009.

As for the question - I’ll guess Toronto pitching staff versus Yankees (A) and versus Boston (B).

Yep, going back to 2009.

What do we draw from that? Toronto staff bears down more vs. Yanks or Boston has a far better hitting lineup? I tend to support the idea that many teams gear up for Yanks and perhaps concentrate more, but that’s just my theory.

I don’t know why it’s happened, but it’s extremely annoying.  It’s not like Boston’s offense has been any better than the Yankees over that stretch of time.

Yankee offense, 2009-2012:.270/.350/.454, 3072 runs
Red Sox offense, 2009-2012: .272/.344/.453, 3010 runs

And why have the Blue Jays allowed 29 unearned runs against Boston and only 6 against the Yankees?

It could be an advance scouting issue, where Boston does a better job of exploiting certain things than the Yankees, or it could be that the Jays just try harder against the Yankees.

It could be an advance scouting issue, where Boston does a better job of exploiting certain things than the Yankees, or it could be that the Jays just try harder against the Yankees.

Enough of a sample that splitting into home vs. away games be meaningful?  E.g. is it possible that the Jays’ pitchers are equally effective at home against both teams, but pitch particularly poorly at Fenway?

E.g. is it possible that the Jays’ pitchers are equally effective at home against both teams, but pitch particularly poorly at Fenway?

It could be, maybe I’ll look into this a bit more.

Most likely it’s just noise.  Annoying noise.  But just going from memory, I think the O’s have been the anti-Blue Jays in this respect.