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Thursday, October 26, 2017

NY Times: Joe Girardi Is Out as Yankees’ Manager

After a decade in the job that included a championship season in 2009, Joe Girardi is out as manager of the Yankees.

The 53-year-old Girardi announced his departure in an emailed statement on Thursday morning, saying, “With a heavy heart, I come to you because the Yankees have decided not to bring me back.” The statement went on to thank everyone from the Steinbrenner family to General Manager Brian Cashman to his coaches and other team personnel, and it concluded with Girardi saying that the “passion and excitement” of the 2017 postseason would “remain in my heart forever.”

In a separate statement, issued by the Yankees, Cashman said that he wanted to thank Girardi “for his 10 years of hard work and service” and that the team had “decided to pursue alternatives for the managerial position.”

This postseason was both exhilarating and painfully disappointing for Girardi and the Yankees, ending in a loss in Game 7 of the American League Championship Series. Two other managers — the Washington Nationals’ Dusty Baker and the Boston Red Sox’ John Farrell — lost their jobs this month after their teams were ousted from the postseason. Girardi becomes the third.

I’m shocked.  Not that Girardi is leaving, but that it’s because the Yankees have decided they didn’t want to bring him back.

I hope they have a good replacement in mind, because for all his faults Girardi was probably in the top 10 of all MLB managers and it won’t be that easy to replace him.

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I’m honestly at a point of just laughing over what a joke these jobs are, despite having a significant effect on the results of games and seasons. We have John Farrell, who gets fired after winning a World Series nobody expected in ‘13, and division titles the past two seasons, then Girardi, who gets fired after dragging every ounce of potential out of overmatched Yankees teams in ‘13 and 14, then performing to or above expectations the last three seasons. So like, what’s the criteria for a manager? In these two cases, its not actually doing your job well. Front offices are turning it into a public relations position basically. “We want a new face talking to the media. We want a manager who will take *every* analytics suggestion, not just 90 percent.” In Dombrowksi’s case its basically, I traded Moncada for Sale, Sale might leave after three seasons, we didn’t win the Series in his first year, bam, you’re fired. Its ridiculous.

[1] I’m not going to speculate as to the reason until more info is out…but Girardi was here for 10 years, not 2 like Dusty was in WAS. 10 years is a long time.

As for why people are high on Acta…he’s one of the few coaches in baseball high on analytics and has a great reputation for 1) being a good person in general 2) being great with young players and clubhouse chemistry.

We have a young team with an organization that likes analytics- it’s a good fit.

End of the day, I’m 50/50 on this. Can see it both ways. Just hoping Baker or Ausmus don’t come walking in the door.

2. I’d be fine with Acta. I get what you are saying, and I understand overachieving with the team ‘14 shouldn’t matter if there’s a disconnect with the current roster. That being said, on-field performance seems to be counting less and less with how these guys are evaluated by front offices, and that’s strange to me.

I think it was time for change.

My personal opinion on managers is that they’re kind of like golf scores.  There isn’t a ton of things that they can do to make a team much better, but they can sure make teams worse.  Girardi kept the teams performing to their potential and kept things from getting real bad.

I’m not sure what more he could have done that didn’t involve a magic wand.

(2)  Dusty Baker doesn’t just walk in a door.  He kicks open the saloon doors, orders a beer, and puts his feet up on the table while he chats up the waitress for a while and tells the piano player which song he wants. 

(Yes, in this case, Dusty Baker is a cowboy.)

[3] Then again, managers seemed to get an excessive amount of credit for on-field success too, so I don’t think it’s a bad thing that FOs seem to be focusing less on W-L records. Don’t get me wrong, I’m disappointed that Girardi isn’t coming back, since, like many others here, I think he’s a good manager and I think it’ll be difficult to replace him, but if it comes out that the players didn’t like playing under him, that’s enough of a reason to look elsewhere.

Cashman hired Girardi ten years ago when many of the media, fanbase, maybe even owners, wanted Mattingly. I think he made the right choice. So now if he thinks it’s time for a change I’m going to trust his judgement. There’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes that we never see.

This also doesn’t seem like the type of move a GM makes on his way out the door, so I suspect we’ll see Cashman signing a new contract in the next few days.

I would hire a great pitching coach who I couldn’t otherwise get as manager, like Don Cooper.

Can they fire Randy Levine next?

[9] Has any pitching coach been able to make the transition to successful manager?  Bud Black and ...?

I hope we at least interview Alex.

[8] This also doesn’t seem like the type of move a GM makes on his way out the door, so I suspect we’ll see Cashman signing a new contract in the next few days.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Cashman hasn’t been re-signed yet, right? I was confused by seeing all the reports about what “General Manager Brian Cashman” is saying because I thought his contract had also expired. Does his (and Girardi’s) contract not expire until after the WS? How does the timing work?

Happy happy happy!  I hope they interview Mark Kotsay.

It would be hilarious if Girardi and Baker just switch places.

If they don’t get Baker, I hope they at least get someone who speaks Spanish.  It seems like it would be helpful if the manager could communicate with all the players on a meaningful level, not just half.

From a distance, way over here, canning Girardi seems like a bad idea

Wow. Shocked here. I always thought of Girardi as a blank slate onto which we could project our hopes and dreams. My dreams involved the Yankees losing a lot more than they did, and for that reason it was time for him to go. But I can’t imagine what the Yankees’ reasoning was.

God I hope you guys get Dusty Baker.

I feel like this is the offseason they update the grooming policy too.

I heard a take from a caller on WFAN today that makes sense to me. This decision was made in 2016 when they chose to begin a full youth movement, after which they decided that Girardi wasn’t the manager to lead that movement. Instead of firing him, they let him finish out his contract, never thinking that they’d have as much success as they did in 2017, leaving them to decide whether to go with their original plan to move on from Girardi, or to let the events of 2017 change their minds. They chose to stick with the original plan. Keep in mind that if they wanted to move on from Girardi, they would prefer to do it now, and not after they give him the market rate new contract of 5 years at 4-5 million per year. And the Game 2 non-challenge fiasco, despite what happened after, did not help Girardi’s cause.

According to the Post which as always should be taken with a cup of salt an unnamed source said Acta doesn’t handle controversy very well.

I can’t help but wonder if they have someone in mind already.

Nothing has ever been as unlikely as A-rod becoming manager of the Yankees next year

If it’s about the utes I hope they strongly consider candidates in their 40s.

[21] Unless this is a knee-jerk reaction to the non-challenge (and I don’t think it is) they must have someone in mind. I’ll be upset if they don’t.

[23] I’m in my 40s and I have no idea how to talk to the kids these days.

24 I think they know where they want to go.

Francesa said a big part of the rift was over analytics, and that GM’s want input on everything, including lineups.

[25] You text them.

[26] How is that insane? Aside from game tactics, having a good relationship with your colleagues, the people you manage, seems like a pretty big deal.


“He just wears you down after a while,” one of his former players told me this week when his fate was still not public. “Nobody hates him, everyone respects the work ethic, but there is no real connection. He wears his tension on his face after all these years of managing, and it is too long a season for that style all the time.”

[30] Because we’ve moved beyond the idea that being good at your job is enough to keep your job. Now you have to be good at your job but also be everybody’s best friend.

Being everybody’s friend is an excellent way to be bad at your job.

[31] That sounds similar to the knock on Showalter every time he gets fired. The intensity he brings to the park every….single….day….eventually wears thin on the players.

I hope they don’t return to the Torre style slumbering bear approach to managing.

[29] Texting is my generation.  These kids are snapchatting and conversing solely in meme gifs.

[31] Yeah, I think the non-challenge was indicative of Girardi’s high-strung nature leading to a panicky brain fart in a big moment. If the Yankees lost Game 3, we wouldn’t be confused as to why he’s out of a job. If his excessive intensity was already a concern, that might have been the last straw for the front office, whatever happened after that be damned.

I’m with discofever, there’s no reason a manager can’t be good at the baseball part of the job and the human part. Saying he has to be “everybody’s best friend” is a straw man. If Chapman’s “accidental” social media activity was not an isolated incident, then maybe this is the right call.

[11]  I admit that the list is not impressive, but if we believe that the next manager will be following the front office’s analytics in most decisions, I think it is one of the few areas where a talented coach can add value.

Yeah, I don’t think the FO is asking for him to be buddy-buddy. They just want a better work place environment, which is legitimate. Trust and respect is key, above and beyond being “friends” and maybe it finally wore off with Girardi because of his distance from the players?

Also, dark horse candidate appears to be the Shock Master himself.

So, Alex for bench coach ? Actually serious. Or hitting coach ?

[38] It absolutely isn’t. We’re witnessing something in the context of baseball that has deeper roots in the working world across all fields. But sports is supposed to be one of the great true meritocracies, and by what evidence we have, and judging by those meritocratic standards, Girardi is successful at his job.

By shifting the focus to clubhouse culture — a thing people here typically rail against — we’re essentially, and subjectively, rewriting what it means to be a good manager. Look, if the players hate a guy and quit on him, that’s a completely different situation than players who nearly make the Series and whisper in private they don’t hate the guy, but don’t love him either. It is COMPLETELY reasonable to question whether that’s a good thing or not, to change those criteria of how you judge a manager.

And this isn’t strictly a shift in baseball, either. This is what it means to be an employee in America. “can you do the job” isn’t ever as important as “does the rest of hte office like you.” There’s always an element of that, implicitly, but it’s become more and more an explicit factor. (Believe me, I have all the performance reviews to say I’m coming from an informed place here.) And once you start shutting out talented introverts from elevated positions, you’re effectively choosing to sharply limit the pool of talent you can select from which, again, has actual, on-field implications.

There’s no right or wrong but as long as this is Cash’s recommendation and not Randy’s or Hal’s I’m fine with it.

The latest rumor is that Deep Blue and Oprah will be co managers.

[42] You’re not really engaging with the point. The Yankees clearly believe they can find a guy who is as talented of a baseball mind but *also* gets along with the players. Maybe the young guys do better than .500 on the road during the regular season (1-6 in the playoffs) if they felt more comfortable in hostile environments. I have no idea if it’s true, but Cashman clearly thinks something along those lines and you’re acting like it’s totally irrational.

You’re comparing this to a normal office job, as opposed to managing a huge organization of dudes who have excelled at everything they’ve ever done, as well as the most hostile media in the country.

Why would Alex, who made half-a-billion dollars playing baseball, want the daily grind of manager, or of coach. No way I would, would you?

[44] I’m not at all. My point is when winning in sports isn’t considered a primary driver, we’ve come to a strange place. The entire argument for having a guy who “gets along with the players” (and again, even by the anonymous admission in the Sherman story, the players didn’t hate Girardi) is that it theoretically translates to more on-field success.

If there’s a guy out there who can do better, then by all means, pull the trigger. But we have no evidence that guy is (or is not) out there. We do know Girardi did yeoman’s work in his time here.

Is 1-6 on the road because the players didn’t love Girardi? If so, why didn’t that animus show up in the home record, or in Game 5 vs. Cleveland?

It’s 2017; look at MLB, and look at the USA. Time for the first Yankees manager who is a person of color.

I don’t know how he is at coaching and educating, but if he is any good at it, Alex would be a great hitting/bench coach. We all know during his time he was known for taking the young guys under his wing which is a good sign for any potential coaching talent.

Back to Girardi, I personally am trying to explain the FO reasoning, not so much mine, and I understand their perspective. Yes, Girardi has proven he can manage and win. That does matter. But they know what’s going on behind closed doors. If they think his relationship with the FO and the players is an issue, that can supersede his W/L performance.

Going back to what I previously said, a new window/era/generation is about to begin. It just so happens the manager has an expired contract. If the Yankees at this point in time want someone in charge who brings something different to the table than Girardi for this new window, NOW is the time to do so, not in 2020 or 2021 if things aren’t going as planned. Either you go with a new voice or you go all-in. After 10 years they decided something new is best for the new era. That’s fine. And I’m a Girardi fan. I’m 50/50 on this because I’m not sure they’ll hire someone who will do better than Joe. But I get the move and am okay with it.

Plus, it’s the Yankees. They have talent. I doubt they’ll bring someone in and all of sudden this roster is struggling to win 82 games. If you want an update in how the players are managed, now is the time. Whoever said manager is will win games. Their tactical decisions in the SSS of a postseason may come back to bite them, but that’s another discussion.

The Joel Sherman article really rubbed me wrong. Comparing Joe Girardi unfavorably to Dave Roberts, because Roberts is basically a yes man? How about having Josh Fields pitching in the tenth inning of a World Series game because Mr. Push Button took his starter out after four innings? I’d love to see Dave Roberts manage Vernon Wells and Jayson Nix to an above .500 record. I’m bothered by this move because we have moved into a vague zone outlined in 46 where odd courtly synchronicity between the front office and manager has superseded on-field importance in terms of assessing the job done. And yes I think Sic Semper is on the ball in inferring that corporations have tilted their assessment of value toward how comfortable employees make them, because performance is becoming robotically fungible, and the human elements of experience and intuition devalued.

Nobody’s interviewing Alex for a job as manager of the Yankees.

Girardi, as part of the 1996+ teams, even when I didn’t like what things he said or did, was “one of ours.” And he was both reasonable and the kind of guy you could understand.

Managers too often feel like hired guns, temporary outsiders.

I’m sorry Joe G’s going, and I hope they bring in someone who can be here for just as long and who feels at home.

Quick Q though for those not okay with the departure because of Joe’s W/L record.

Did you think Joe Torre should have been fired? Because he never missed the postseason, won more WS titles, had better W/L records going season-season, and so on. But I think most people are in agreement it was time for Torre to go even though he clearly earned the job, based on performance.

Essentially, where do you draw the line?

I was against letting Torre go at the time.

I think Alex would be a terrible manager but a brilliant coach. He is supposedly maintaining a relationship with the Yankees, perhaps he will begin to take a more active roll now that his contract is up and as he moves further from his retirement.

51. Yeah but Joe Torre made some unbelievably HORSE-SHIT decisions in his last few playoff years, in capital letters. For a team with limited opportunities at postseason play, decisions like Jeff Weaver in ‘03, not just going to Mo in the eighth inning of game five in ‘04, hitting A-Rod eighth and losing the clubhouse in ‘06, the midges in ‘07 PLUS pitching Wang on three days rest after he got hammered in game one, would have been legendary screw-ups. The only times I’ve really been aghast at Girardi decision, in ten years! was taking out Robertson for Aceves in game three of the ‘09 ALCS, the weird intentional walks which back-fired in 2010, and this replay nightmare that just happened. That’s pretty incredible for ten years, given the fallibility of most managers. Joe was a real solid tactician.

I’ll just mention that what we desk jockeys (hello!) consider “being friends with co-workers” and what that means in baseball where people travel together for long periods of time is not the same. Obviously in baseball the manager has to be respected, which entails keeping a certain distance, but people need to be comfortable with each other in some way, I’d guess, or the whole process of being around each other becomes a downer.

I think you guys are significantly underrating the value of soft skills, ESPECIALLY in a managerial (both in baseball and the real world) sense.

Think about the different IT guys you have worked with in the past. I’m sure you’ve had a few that were definitely competent, but just miserable to work with. If he were on a contract and you could bring in someone who was just or nearly as good technically but was pleasant, wouldn’t you take that risk?

Or think about a manager you’ve had that was promoted to the position based on his ability to do the job of those he is managing rather than balancing that with the ability to manage.

I’m still not happy about Girardi leaving, but I understand the reason, especially if the Yankees asked him to work on his interpersonal skills to little effect.

[25]  Yell at them!  They’re on your goddamn lawn!

But do we know for a fact that the players didn’t like being around Girardo? This is just a rumor from the post that everyone is running with.

I wonder how much Girardi’s public calling out of Gary Sanchez had to do with this? To me, that’s the biggest sin he committed. I like Girardi, but if that was a harbinger of his treatment of this crop of 24-year-olds, then I’m happy saying goodbye.

Edit: “sin” is too strong a word. Just seemed an unproductive way to solve a problem, more likely to cause bigger problems. I’m impressed Gary didn’t fire back in the papers.

Right now Francessa is on his third bottle of Cold Duck.

[56] Completely agree if someone’s a miserable prick, it’s going to make their continued employment a problem. But in this specific case, with the evidence we have (which, admittedly, may not paint the full picture!) it seems the clubhouse didn’t hate him. May not have loved him, but didn’t hate him.

To counterbalance the Sherman quote, and the Gardner non-answer he writes about in that piece, we also have D-Rob posting a pic of him and Girardi together with a nice note on Twitter.

I mean, it’s all forensics from two towns over at this point. Maybe Joe’s salary plays a bigger part than anyone is letting on. (Potentially due for a raise over $4m/year).

[25] I’m Girardi’s age and I don’t know how to talk to these 40 year old punks.

Francessa is hoping Torre comes back, or Clemens.

[61] Judge did give his own deflection answer during that one post-game which seemed too scripted.

It could be that he was more or less actively disliked and the players - except for Chapman - all knew how to keep it from bubbling into the press.

Otherwise I would have expected to see players defending him and saying the press is making things up, etc. That didn’t seem to happen.

A-Rod for manager is a joke started I believe by me.  But I haven’t read any of the reporting, is that actually a trial balloon being floated?

I can think of a couple reasons for Girardi not getting renewed.  One would be that Cashman didn’t think he was the best manager for a younger team, although the team and individual success this year would seem to argue against that.

Another would be analytics.  The Yankees have the largest analytics department in baseball.  If Girardi isn’t willing to listen to what comes out of that department, and his bosses think he should be, then it’s time for a parting of the ways.

I think some of us are underestimating the personality thing.  Those of us with the misfortune to be middle managers know you’ve gotta manage up and manage down, and you’ve got to maintain the confidence of both.  There are different ways of doing that of course, while remembering in the one case that you don’t have the final say and in the other that you do.  If Girardi was grating on the bosses and the players, well, he didn’t do himself any favors no matter what else he did.  That’s why Davey Johnson kept getting fired—he wasn’t polite enough to ownership.

I think it’s also possible that there’s a Showalter element to this as others have said.  Remember he got fired after being pretty successful.  It’s entirely possible that a looser kind of guy (in Cashman’s estimation) is necessary at this point.

In TV I have a sort of weird specialty in rescuing failing shows.  In every case the material was good and the staff (generally) strong, but the product wasn’t there.  In every case, when I walk in the door everybody gets happier because sometimes a change just makes everything seem better somehow.  I’m not saying the on-field Yankees are failing in any way, but maybe a little shakeup isn’t a bad thing.

I wonder if Torre’s long tenure was due in part to the way Jeter stuck to him like a leech.

While I’m not a fan of Francessa’s analysis I’m guessing that he has sources and he’s saying that the players didn’t like Girardi.  Its one thing to not be close to the players but if they really did not like him that’s a big negative.

You damned well do. And they’d better pull their asses out of their snapchats and listen.

[60] I remember when I was like 9-10 and my parents were talking about cold duck and I was certifiably confused.  A duck?  In a bottle?  Liquid meat?

[70]  Isn’t it great being old and knowing these things?

Starting to smell like Acqa Velva around here.

Tex saying that Girardi’s tension could wear thin over the year and make they young guys tight.

If that was true, it seems like something Arod would have made the mistake of disclosing.

[74] about [72]?

Coney for next manager, Wells for pitching coach. Shane Spencer for hitting coach. Possibly Leyritz.

It is what it is.  I have 2 real thoughts on this…

1) Managers don’t make a huge difference.  Their main role is to manage the bullpen which Girardi (for the most part) was excellent at, but in my opinion talent is the most important thing so while I would have liked to keep him, I’m not going to get too worked up over it.

2) No matter who they bring in, you all will hate them after half a season anyway.

[75] [74] about [72], not [72]

(You can’t make beautiful stuff like this in Twitchatspace or whatever the kids are using these days.)

Guys, guys, guys, and gals…


Just got home, pretty surprised at this news.  For reference, I was OK with Torre moving on, I’m significantly less OK with Girardi going.

I’ll only be OK if they have a clear plan for who they are going with and that plan doesn’t involve an idiot.

[77] this is rather rude. Plenty of people are defending Girardi after a full decade. The post literally calls him a top 10 manager.  What evidence is there that “we all” would hate the replacement? Or do you just want it to be that way for some reason?

I think a lot of the anti-Girardi drumbeating is just downright asinine. He’s demonstrably one of the best managers in baseball, has been his entire time as a manager.

Now, I do have to say, 10 years is a long time to be the manager of the same team. You get set in your ways, start believing your shit don’t stink, stop listening. Maybe you don’t get to bring in, or keep the coaches you want, you don’t have the same dynamics but you expect them to adapt only to you.

All kinds of speculation on what wasn’t right. 10 years is time enough for a lot of crud to accumulate.

I hope Joe doesn’t become Buck II. I hope they bring in someone awesome.

I hope this isn’t a clubhouse run by the players.

[82] Game threads? Maybe they are more tongue in cheek than I pick up on…

Cubs sign Chili Davis.

I don’t like the move, but, like the 2004 comeback, it was so obviously coming that I was prepared for it. The sudden radio silence from the front office on Girardi after saying nice things about him all season was a baaaaaaaaaaaad sign.

It’s such an odd decision, but hey, I will admit that as someone who diddn’t want this to happen, that I can’t say that I truly believe managers make THAT much of a difference. They can hire Dusty Baker and the team will still be a good team.

I vote for Jay Bell, but I do admit that I feel weird about this team never hiring anyone but white dudes.

Al Pedrique seems like an abrasive dude, so I don’t get how they would hire him if they want a player’s manager. I’d be fine with Bam Bam, but it seems like the Giants just rearranged their team specifically to make him the heir apparent to Bochy, so I doubt he’s coming.

The good thing about the firing it adds some spice to the off season.

“2) No matter who they bring in, you all will hate them after half a season anyway.”
I’m getting head start, I hate him already.

“For reference, I was OK with Torre moving on, I’m significantly less OK with Girardi going.”

“and that plan doesn’t involve an idiot.”
Can the keep Levine away from the decision-making process?

How anyone is surprised is beyond me. The handwriting was on the wall.

And two managers in a row that they let go, no firing necessary.

[87]  I was kidding about Bam Bam, was shocked to discover that he’s now the Giants bench coach and manager-in-waiting.

To be serious, I might vote for Tony Pena.  Former catchers seem to make good managers, he knows the players and knows New York, he’s done it before.  He quit on the Royals, but who knows what really happened there.

I don’t think Pena is a realistic choice, as it seems clear that the idea is to have someone who is, in effect, a Cashman….I don’t want to say puppet, but someone that could be molded by Cashman. Pena is his own man AND he’s been here for over a decade. He just doesn’t fit.

I personally wouldn’t mind Pena, but he doesn’t fit with what Cashman is looking for. A guy like Jay Bell, on the other hand, could easily fit the bill. As could a Bam Bam.

By the way, the fact that it is Cashman who is pulling the strings here makes me a lot less worried about the situation. Cashman’s, like, the smartest guy in the universe. If he wants a manager that he can completely control, I think it’s a bit of a dick move, but it will still probably result in a good manager.

And, come on, between Cash and Girardi, Cash is about a gazillion times more important to the Yankees (and I say that as someone who didn’t want them to dump Girardi). Cash is just THAT important. So if he wants to throw his weight around, then you have to let him. The guy is that good.

Essentially, they’re clearly looking for their own versions of the two guys who are managing in the World Series. Personable yes men who can be controlled by the GM.

Read an interesting piece on the move. This kind of is the first team Cashman truly put together without FO interference from George, Hal, Levine, etc.

In essence, he was given the keys to the bus. He got the players on the bus. Now he wants his own bus driver. That’s fair and reasonable.

Up until the playoffs, I really liked Girardi and he def handles a pen better than most, even if the past few years he seemed to make more mistakes than in the past. I would be content if he came back. But it’s not the end of the world he isn’t coming back. I will keep going back to it- we have a new window opening up and Cashman wants someone new and fresh for this new era. And 10 years is a long time. Personally, I think change is good- not for it’s own sake, but as someone mentioned above, you might start to think your shit doesn’t stink. Getting a new voice/personality/style/opinions/etc has positive merits.

I recall seeing an article a long time ago that concluded that baseball managers by far tended to have their greatest successes with a team in the first 5 years.  The implication was that, after 5, they plateau, become complacent, or simply run out of whatever they initially brought into the situation that helped the team succeed.  (In fact, the author may have even been hypothecizing that this was try in any kind of management context, not just baseball.)

I think Cash is too smart to want a Yes man rather he’d like someone who shares his philosophy, accepts and knows how to interpret the analytics, and then makes his own decisions.

What’s Carlos Pena’s deal I saw him for 5 minutes last week and he seemed like a sharp guy.

Yeah, it’s more like he needs someone he can align with, not end up having conversations like “Hey Joe, I went and got you X so you’d have someone who could…. but you’re not using him that way. When you do that, I don’t know who to go get for you.”

93 As long as Cash is the catalyst behind this move rather than Levine or Hal I’m fine and I can see where Girardi could wear thin. Espada sounds like he might be a good fit,he’s young, bilingual, supposedly has some good relationships on the team and is interested in analytics.

[97] I agree, I think Cashman is looking for a Rays-era Maddon or a Francona. Someone who is very open and invested in analytics and brings his own perspective and opinions to the table and the in-game tactics.

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