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Monday, December 12, 2011

NY Times: Forget Pujols, Cashman Praises Montero

As news of Albert Pujols’s $254 million deal with the Los Angeles Angels circulated the winter meetings Thursday, Cashman’s initial reaction was: “Wow, that’s all. Wow.”

“I don’t know him personally,” Cashman added with a wry smile, “but I see what he does with that bat, and it’s Montero-like.”

Maybe Cashman should sign Montero long-term before making that statement.

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So, we’re now gonna have to worry that Pujols will spend the rest of his career picking off all of Montero’s records ?

The ultimate question is what is in the objective pipe that Cashman doth smoketh?  That’s the ultimate question for your ass, aint it?

Cashman sounds like he wants to drive Montero’s value up.  Suggests that he plans to trade him.

[3] Or he’s just having fun with the reporters.

[4] Cashman is the wildcard, bitches!

It’s better than his remarks about Joba…

What’s the word on Joba, by the way?  Anything?

[6] I believe he began throwing pretty recently.

Bard is being stretched out, why not Joba too?

[8] not to meantion unlike Bard, Joba actually has a record of being an effective starting pitcher. the last time Bard was a starter he put up one of the worest season I’ve ever seen in the minors.

CHW asking for TWO of Montero, Banuelos, Betances.  Yankees reportedly unwilling to move Montero or Banuelos.

I guess if it’s Betances and filler, and an extension of Danks comes with it, I’d be OK.

I’d rather try and get Wandy Rodriguez, who should be significantly cheaper in prospect cost.

Wandy is due $36M over the next three seasons as his 2014 club option becomes guaranteed if he is traded. I would rather just see what the kids can bring to the back of the rotation.

CHW seem to be taking the stance that they don’t NEED to move Danks so they wil field offers but only trade him if they can get a huge return. Plus, their GM is still upset about giving away Swisher for nothing, so he will want to bone the Yanks extra hard on the next deal.

[5] Very nice!

[10] “Wandy is due $36M over the next three seasons as his 2014 club option becomes guaranteed if he is traded. I would rather just see what the kids can bring to the back of the rotation.”

That’s why you’ll get him for filler.  Maybe Nunez plus a B- arm?

I’d always rather give up money than talent.

[12] Wandy is solid, but I’m not a big enough fan of him to want him for 3 years.

[13] Ditto.  There are also the obvious concerns about going from a very weak division to a very strong one.  I’m not completely against Wandy…but not much for him either.

[8 & 9] I don’t think Joba is even near a mound yet.  So the Yankees haven’t yet not-converted him back to the rotation.  They still have months to announce that!

[13] He’s a better pitcher now than Burnett was when they gave him 5/80+.

Wandy ‘09-‘11 591.2 IP, 118 ERA+, AJ ‘06-‘08 522 IP, 112 ERA+.

Edit:  I’m not saying I’d give up any really good prospects for him (I’m thinking Nunez plus Warren or Phelps), but the money wouldn’t scare me.

[8, etc.] Word.

One of the many negatives aspects of keeping talented (if still unproven) starters in the bullpen is that, compounded with spurious signings like Soriano, it minimizes the Yanks’ chances of getting value out of a young pitcher who has reached his inning limit.  Thus the Yankees fail to take advantage of their resources. 

E.g. if, for example, it’s September and the Yanks have Mo, Robertson, Soriano, Joba, and oh, say, Hughes as effective relievers, there’s little or no chance to make use of a rookie, taking advantage of his unfamiliarity to other teams’ hitters.

one of the worest season I’ve ever seen in the minors.

Was that in Worsester?

So when will Montero become a better player than Pujols? One week? Two months, tops?

[18] He’s already a better postseason hitter. So as of the 2011 postseason.

taking advantage of his unfamiliarity to other teams’ hitters

That only works against…well, us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pslvVgKAcUA Sorry.

[21] Thank You !

Interesting that the bidding on the Yu Darvish posting rights closes tomorrow and nobody’s obsessing over it.  Remember when Dice-K posted?  People were counting down the minutes to the 6 o’clock deadline.

Speaking of Darvish, I have a question about the posting process. I heard on the radio that the winning bid would be announced over the weekend (Sunday, maybe?). Does it really take that long to sift through a bunch of bids to determine which has the bigger number on it?

Geoff

[24] I understand the posting must be delivered in pennies.

Question: How many 55 gal. drums does it take to hold $90M ? (I suppose if I knew the answer this would be a great ice-breaker at bars.)

[24] - I’m sure determining the winning bid is easy, but the team still has a right to refuse the bid no?  I’d imagine this is a no-brainer decision but I’m sure they will at least want to talk it over.

http://tinyurl.com/86wpt57

Leadership by example?

Am I a huge sexist, or is that not a huge deal? I mean, a single millionaire celebrity is going to play the field, and there are worse ways to go about it.

[28] Living the Dream.

Maybe the girl involved can save up, like 3 of the Starter packages and trade them in for one item from the Players Club selection. She’s almost there !

Can the Japanese team decide which bid to accept? Like if Yu says he’ll only sign with the Yankees, they might accept the Yankees’ bid even if it’s lower, because they’ll get nothing if he doesn’t sign.

[31] - No.  They can only accept the highest bid, but I’m 90% sure they can reject the highest bid as well.

The posting system doesn’t play to the Yankees strengths.  If they know they bids they can always choose if they want to go higher but if it is a blind bid they risk overbidding by a huge amount it they bid their max.

He’s a better pitcher now than Burnett was when they gave him 5/80+.

Wandy ‘09-‘11 591.2 IP, 118 ERA+, AJ ‘06-‘08 522 IP, 112 ERA+.

Edit:  I’m not saying I’d give up any really good prospects for him (I’m thinking Nunez plus Warren or Phelps), but the money wouldn’t scare me.

I know ERA+ is park and league adjusted but does that truly capture going from the NL Central to the AL East? Also, making the case that he is on a similar career path to Burnett should make the Yankees want him less. Anyways, my whole point is that I would rather they just see what Warren or Phelps could do in the rotation. CC, Nova, Garcia, Hughes, and whichever kid wins the 5th spot is fine with me.

The posting system doesn’t play to the Yankees strengths.  If they know they bids they can always choose if they want to go higher but if it is a blind bid they risk overbidding by a huge amount it they bid their max.

The contracts given to ARod, Jeter, and the initial one given to CC seem to say they will overbid hugely even when they have that information.

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