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Monday, December 3, 2012

NY Post: Yankees, Rodriguez concerned right hip is damaged

NASHVILLE, Tenn. — The Yankees and Alex Rodriguez are concerned the third baseman’s surgically repaired right hip is damaged.

According to a person with knowledge of the situation, Rodriguez recently visited Dr. Marc Phillippon in Colorado after experiencing tightness in the hip that Phillippon operated on in 2009.

“It’s an issue,’’ the person said. “A big issue.’’

The worst contract ever continues to get worse…

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Hip conditions are typically degenerative.  I write the foregoing as a degenerate myself.

I’m resting my hopes on the fact that this is the Post and their “person with knowledge” might be a guy reading comment sections on various blogs.

Maybe we’ll get lucky and it will degenerate him right into early retirement.

Joel Sherman’s exclusively reporting that A-Rod almost certainly will need more surgery.  Yeah, he’s bragging about being the lone wolf reporting that something may or may not happen.

I am going to exclusively report that the Yankees almost certainly will not sign any free agents for more than one year this offseason.

On the Schierholtz front, why waste a roster spot on him if he does not project to be appreciably better than Dickerson?

I think it is extremely wreckless to be saying things like “A-Rod is cooked” around Jeter. He could go all bath-salty on us and then Alex would need a face transplant in addition to an artificial hip.

Our coed softball beer league has something called a “courtesy runner” rule to allow people who can hit but not run, or run but not hit, play the game.

We might need that rule in the next CBA.

[6] ARod can’t really hit that well now either.

The Yankees are in a pickle when it comes to finding a fill in for A-Rod and Derek Eater.  Free agents and trade partners have them over a barrel.  The Yankees, in other words, are in a pickle barrel.  They will have to plumb the briny depths to find someone suitable to replace them.  Someone who wont cause them to go over the 189m cliff, cost too much or require a multi-year contract.  Who the heck could that be?

On the Schierholtz front, why waste a roster spot on him if he does not project to be appreciably better than Dickerson?

Because the projection could be wrong.  A lot more of Dickerson’s projection is based on his minor league numbers and he may not translate as well as the typical player has.

Schierholtz isn’t great, but you have a bit more of a track record in MLB with him so I guess there’s less downside risk.

[5, previous thread] The good thing is that losing this version of Rodriguez isn’t nearly as crippling as losing the good version.

One might also say that, if the reason he’s been struggling is because he needs a procedure, then get the dang procedure.  It was a lot more troubling when he wasn’t as effective as he was projected to be, and when the team is queired as to why, the answer was “there’s no reason, he’s healthy.” At least now, theres a reason.

Also, if they replace him with a player who is actually good, then maybe the team is that much stronger at DH (or whatever) when Rodriguez comes back.

[9] So if Schierholtz has higher upside, maybe Dickerson becomes tradebait is our quest for a two-legged infielder under 300 pounds whose name doesn’t rhyme with “Phew-nyez” ?

Or would we consider a Dickerson-Gardner-Schierholtz outfield and try to get a third baseman out of Granderson ?

I’ve been holding out hope that the Yankees were going to trade for a stud young OF. Then it was stud young C. Now it’s stud young 3B or SS. We’re screwed.

I wonder if the Yankees will experiment with Austin at 3B during ST this year.

[10] Yeah he needs the procedure, but who’s to say he’ll ever return to anything remotely resembling pre-hipster A-Rod?  Combine ordinary decline, chronic hip problems, 5yrs and 114m remaining on the worst contract ever, and the picture is not pretty.  As to your second point, how good can his replacement possibly be given the relative paucity of minor league talent that could be offered in a trade and the fiscal straitjacket into which the Yankees have voluntarily inserted themselves?

In short, this sucks.

The question posed by this latest turn of events is where is Mike K’s indestructible optimism when I need it.

Would replacing his hip with titanium and plastic be against some or another rule ?

Would he even be able to play again ? I dunno, let’s find out. Right now we’ve got nothing and five years to find out.

[14]  Yeah he needs the procedure, but who’s to say he’ll ever return to anything remotely resembling pre-hipster A-Rod?

Which of these is better: Rodriguez falling off a cliff from his projection with no reason or because of an injury? In either case, he’d probably project to be bad in the follow on year, but at least with the injury, there’s hope that it’s a problem you can fix.  Think Vernon Wells. He’s perfectly heatlthy and just stinks.

As to your second point, how good can his replacement possibly be given the relative paucity of minor league talent that could be offered in a trade and the fiscal straitjacket into which the Yankees have voluntarily inserted themselves?

Why does it have to be minor league talent? Nova and Phelps (especially Phelps), are, in my opinion, two pretty valuable trade chips.

[16] With hip impingement, generally hip replacement or a shaving of the bone back to the correct shape is eventually necessary. The problem ARod is having is that so much damage has already been done to the tissue around tha joint that even if he had the surgery (which would take him out for a full year) he would still probably be having injury issues.

Just saw something said the hip they’re talking about is the LEFT hip, not the previously repaired RIGHT hip.

I thought only old Jewish people had hip replacements.  People named Sidney and Sadie.

In other news, the Rangers resigned Geovany Soto, who I was hoping we would grab. Dang.

Crapoli to the Sox.

As for the catching situation, I’m contemplating a platoon of Bill Dickey and Yogi Berra.  Either that or Ramon Hernandez and Kelly “Bitches Be” Schoppach.

[9] So if Schierholtz has higher upside, maybe Dickerson becomes tradebait is our quest for a two-legged infielder under 300 pounds whose name doesn’t rhyme with “Phew-nyez” ?

Dickerson went unclaimed on waivers after the season, so I’d imagine his trade value is only a bit better than Rodriguez’s or Teixeira’s.

And I don’t think Jeter is at 300 pounds yet, more like 275.  But yeah, with two legs he’d be three bills easy.

Bold prediction, the Yankees will re-sign Eric Chavez, and platoon him and David Adams at 3B.  And I suppose that’s ok, but then they really need a bat in RF.

[24] They are trying to sign Stephen Drew apparently. So it might be more of a Chavez/Drew platoon. I think Adams is going to end up as trade bait.

[24] They’ll still need someone under 275 pounds who can play short, unless they plan to stick with Phew-Nez.  Rumor has it they’re in on Stephen Drew, but I could see him signing somewhere where he’s guaranteed to start.  I can even see him getting a two-year deal.

Chavez and Drew is not a platoon since both hit lefty.  Maybe they won’t bring back Chavez, but I can’t see Drew signing for one year as a utility man.  Not with his agent.

[27] Right didn’t mean platoon, but Drew would be signed most likely to back up SS and 3B, and with Jeter coming back from a broken ankle (and being old) and Chavez not really having a working back, he would get plenty of playing time.

I also think the Yankees will be willing to sign some 2 year deals if that will bring the AAV down for them.

SG, I wasn’t suggesting a Chavez/Adams platoon won’t happen; I was saying they’ll still need someone to back up Jeter and it probably won’t be Drew.

Crapoli deal is 3yrs/39m.  Does he project to be about a 8 WAR player over that term and, if so, is 5m per WAR reasonable?

[28] Has Drew ever played third base?

[30] I think SG had him worth 2.9 WAR in 2013 dropping from there, so he’ll probably be worth a bit under 8 WAR across 3 years. A lot depends on how he is used though, obviously he is more valuable as a C.

Kate Middleton is pregnant.  Mel Hall is not the father.

[30] MLBTR reports he’ll primarily play first base and occasionally catch.

Napoli takes the Sox from a 74 win team to a 77 win team.  Good for them.

And his WAR is based on being a catcher.  As a mostly 1B he won’t be nearly as valuable.  That being said, not catching likely will help his offense improve, although I don’t know whether or not it’s enough to make him a 3 win 1B.

A-Rod was good last year before he broke his hand.  Not $27.5M per good but still a good player.  Fix his hip and hopefully you continue to get that for a little while longer.

If he simply can’t play and retires, well what is the insurance give the Yankees?  Anyone know?

Sox will likely sign another outfielder, Swisher or Ross.  I fervently hope I don’t have to see Swisher in a Sox uniform.  Either way I guess that move would put them at just about .500. 

Moral of the story I suppose is that while they dumped a lot of contractual ballast in the mega-trade with the free-spending Dodgers last year, they will not be able replace the lost WAR overnight.  Mel Hall’s bold prediction: Sox miss the playoffs again in 2013.

There’s a very good chance that both wild cards will come out of the AL West next year.  You have three very good teams, one bad team, and one horrific team.  So I think it’s a safe bet that Boston will not make the postseason in 2013.

The Astros are so bad they effectively reverse the strength of the AL and NL.  Last year, AL teams went 1150-1118.  NL teams went 1205-1225.  Add the Astros’ 55-107 to the AL and subtract it from the NL and you get AL: 1205-1225 and NL: 1225-1205.

[15] I’m here for you Mel!  My optimism is…well, I feel good about it recovering.

[40] Gracias, Mike K.  What do you think the Yankees should do at this point?  What do you think they will do?

ESPN reporting that A-rod is going to have the hip surgerized and will miss the first half of the season. I wonder if the Yankees can try to get under the cap by getting group rates on player surgeries?

Okay, one potential solution that I think can make sense for the long run in addition to the short run.  Move Cano to 3rd.  Preferably after signing him to an extension.  Let Adams and CoJo battle it out for 2B.  Adams is righty, can hit, and we’re pretty sure is adequate defensively.  CoJo is lefty, can hit, is younger than Adams, and there are serious questions about his defense.  But while Adams may be able to handle 3rd, we’re pretty sure Joseph can’t.

So, move Cano now.  He’s the Yankees’ 3B in 2013.  Point out to him and Boras how moving to 3rd for the team was an argument used for Cabrerra in MVP.  Then we have 3-4 months to see how Adams/CoJo work out at 2nd.  Best case, maybe they can approximate what Cano did in 2005 as a rookie, but with a little better defense and be worth around 1 WAR.  This could also set the stage for long-term, Cano at 3rd (hopefully extending his career), Joseph/Adams at 2nd.  If this doesn’t work, in July/August ARod is back, move Cano to 2nd, ARod at 3rd.

Long term if this works, it sounds like it may be best to move ARod to another position anyway.  Options are RF, 1B, full-time DH.  I think any of those could help keep him healthier, which helps the Yankees.  I know there are objections to moving him to RF but…I mean try it in 2014 right?  They probably will need a RF, probably won’t be willing to pay for a good one, and the minor leaguers probably not ready.  What’s the worst case?  It fails miserably and they move ARod to DH mid-season instead of beginning of season?

[43] Okay, now what do you think they WILL do?

I’d love to see Boras get burned for having Sori opt out of his contract.  Maybe Mike Ilitch won’t save his ass this time.  I can’t stand Boras, not because he’s an agent, but because he’s Boras.  He’s achieved legendary status as a superagent, but folks seem to forget about some of the mistakes he’s made by being overly aggressive.

[44] They’ll go with crappy fill-ins for 2 months.

[44] Aimlessly sign a bunch of scrap heap guys on cheap 1 year deals and hope that it all works out.

[47] Repeat process for catcher and right field.

The good new is that now the classic site is back I can bring back some classic complaints about all my favorite Yankees.

[49] I would appreciate that.  I’m in a bitchy mood today.  Tell me some of those lies of yours to make me stop thinking about the truth.

[44]  I think first Cashman is going to look into what 3B *may* be available, in particular Headley.  If he can make a sensible trade he’ll do so, and then extend Headley.  Though it affects the 2014 and beyond budget, it also means they have an elite non-1B infielder, and will soften the blow if/when Cano leaves.  It will also give them some leverage over Cano; they’ve already hit the budget, and have that elite (and younger) player, so if he wants to stay with the Yankees, he won’t get a Prince Fielder type contract.  Cashman has hinted that he has a big move in him, and NY Post printed today that others in baseball expect Yankees to do something big.  I think this could be it.  Some other options for a “big” trade for a long-term 3B include Ryan Zimmerman and Mike Moustakas.

If Cashman fails at that (likely but not impossible) he’ll scour the field for a low-cost, RH 3B who could slide into a utility role when ARod returns.  The obvious choice is Youkilis, if he’s willing to take a 1 year deal.  Youkilis I don’t think made sense as a backup from day 1.  But if he knows he’s the starting 3B at least until July, he may be willing to do it.  He can build some value as a starting 3B, and in the 2nd half of season will probably get plenty of time backing up at 1st, 3rd, and being the RH DH.  Then they can evaluate where ARod is, Cano, etc and decide what to do about a more long-term solution after 2013.  Besides Youkilis, maybe Jamey Carrol (doesn’t hit much but could slide into UIF later), and…well not much out there.

Finally, if all that fails, they’ll go with an Adams/Chavez platoon for the time being, and evaluate where they are sometime in June.  Probably try to improve the offense mostly in RF then, and that would be Cashman’s big move.  Probably doesn’t really matter if they have an awesome RF and scrub 3B, or awesome 3B and scrub RF…

Stephen Drew makes sense as a back up infielder. He doesn’t make sense if you definitely don’t have Rodriguez at 3B for 2+ months, and likely don’t have a 3B for the long term.

FWIW, free agent 3B’s: Chavez, Youkilis, Rolen (might have retired), Sutton, Cairo, DeRosa, Inge, Polanco.

[43]So, move Cano now.

Don’t forget that Cano’s value is .. well, not *tied* (like our discussion of Napoli), but certainly a function of his position. He hits huge for a 2B and plays great defense.  Are you sure you want to move your best player out of his position when you are going into season with a bleak outlook on position players?

You could also argue that you’re adding to the uncertainty of the projection (and thus the risk) with two moves (Cano changing positions and Adams/Joseph coming up).  Joseph would be more challenged defensively, but seems to have a better offensive resume than Adams. Or, you could say Adams is 2 years older, so might as well give him a shot now.

[17] Unfortunately, this isn’t like going in and removing bone spurs or even TJS.

A decade ago this would have been instant retirement, but now surgeries are giving guys chances.  But they’re not miracles.  While Chase Utley and Brett Myers have seemingly bounced back from surgeries 3 years ago, Carlos Delgado had this in 2009 at 37 and hasn’t played since.  Utley and Myers were 30-31.

Not exactly an encouraging offseason.

[51] I would love to see a trade for Headley, but I’m not sure the Yankees can give up the pieces they would need to make the trade.  Zimmerman would probably be cheaper, but with his throwing issues, you’d have to be certain that he can actually play 3B.

[51]

I know there are objections to moving him to RF but…I mean try it in 2014 right?

Sure, try it.  I think a RFer is a bit more mobile than a 1B or DH, though.  The objection is that I don’t think Centaur’s body can handle running around the OF for a 125 games.  He could only play about 1/3 of his games at 3B this season.

Though I do wonder if he was limited because everyone knew he was on borrowed time with the hip and wanted to mitigate against that.

I like the idea of moving Cano to 3B, he certainly has the arm & bat for it.

[53] A decade ago this would have been instant retirement, but now surgeries are giving guys chances

Not exactly an encouraging offseason.

Is it possible that Rodriguez spends the final few *years* of his contract on the 60 day DL whilst collecting $20M+? Surely there is some protection against that. Maybe not.

The colossal stupidity of A-Rod’s contract, augmented by the fact that there were no other bidders at the time, will never cease to amaze me.  Wasn’t that move chalked up to Hal’s stunning business acumen, if I recall?

“Derek Jeter will be on the Michael Kay Show at 3:15”

Hmm, wonder why? What could he possibly say - yeah I’m fat as hell, I’ll be fine though.

That’s a misprint.  He’s on the Jenny Craig show.

[58] If you think I’m fat now, wait until Spring Training!

[57] The colossal stupidity of A-Rod’s contract, augmented by the fact that there were no other bidders at the time, will never cease to amaze me.

Have you also considered that, had they not resigned Rodriguez going into 2008, we probably would have went with a stop gap for a year or so, and then ended up with Adrian Beltre?

I’ll never forget the Ensberg/Betemit platoon we all salivated over. Oh, what could have been.

Mark Reynolds/Eric Chavez at 3B? No, right?

[17]  I wouldn’t trade Nova and Phelps.  They have to be part of the plan to be under the cap.

[37, 56]  Insurance pays if he’s hurt and can’t play.  If he just retires the Yankees owe him nothing, which is why he won’t retire.  Remember Lenny Dykstra on the DL for three years? 

However, there was some noise a few years ago that you could no longer get insurance on contracts over three years—which if true tells you something about the wisdom of long contracts.  I don’t know if it was really true then, or is still true; contract insurance is not something teams disclose.

[64] Remember Lenny Dykstra on the DL for three years?

I guess this is really what I was getting at. Would Rodriguez retire if he was essentially debilitated, like Bo Jackson?

If he’s looking for a way for Yankee fans to really hate him, collecting $20M a year for several years to literally work out in Tampa would be the way to do it.

However, there was some noise a few years ago that you could no longer get insurance on contracts over three years—which if true tells you something about the wisdom of long contracts.  I don’t know if it was really true then, or is still true; contract insurance is not something teams disclose.

I think what happened is that the rates on insuring long-term contracts went so high after Belle that teams just wouldn’t pay them any more.  I’m sure you could insure a contract like Rodriguez’s.  It’d just cost you something like 90% of the contract to do it.

would you do that? I would…$20 million a year for 5 years while Yankee fans hate me, versus collecting nothing, retiring, and Yankee fans hate me a little less. tough call.

I know people are tired of piling on the medical staff but seriously, the Yankees season ended a month an a half ago.  The A-Rod benching controversy was almost two months ago.  Why was this not discovered sooner?  Why didn’t he have the surgery late October?

If it was already torn when he came back like rumored why not even sooner?

If he hadn’t taken those hormones in the past A-Rod wouldn’t have torn labia in the present, amirite?

I think it might be mighty boring to just “rehab” in Tampa for 5 years.  Split the difference, 2 1/2 years and retire.

I just realized, the big news out of Tampa this spring will probably be Jeter coming back as a member of the Rotation. Therefore the paunch really isn’t a big deal.

[68] Why did Girardi & Co. lie to us during the playoffs? A-Rod supposedly spent a night in the hospital during the playoffs, but he was healthy and able to perform?

Is Girardi truly going act indignant when reporters hammer him about October? How much weaseling can a man do in one interview? I guess we will find out.

?

[64] yeah, we haven’t heard much about contract insurance lately. The way I heard it was that teams were able to pick three years that they wanted to insure. I have a feeling that insurance companies got a better sense of how to price the premiums and it became prohibitively expensive.

[72] - I couldn’t care less what a manager decides to share with the media about injuries.  But if they knew he has bad, why did he wait this long?  Why wasn’t the surgery done right away?

[74] This is what concerns me. I appreciate a “wait and see” philosophy to a certain extent but it’s not always a bad thing to get an early surgery. ARod’s hips are a known issue and due to the nature of them, whatever damage had been done was unlikely to repair itself in a timely or reliable manner.

In the past ~3 months they’ve lost almost 2 full years of a young pitcher’s development/career to a “wait and see” approach and ~3 months of Arod as well. Maybe their staff was 100% correct in their decisions, but it’s still frustrating as hell to see as a fan.

I guess this is also why Cashman was so sure Rodriguez wouldn’t be traded. He would have never passed the physical.

ARod is not even going to have the surgery until sometime in January. Woo!

How about trading for Asdrubal Cabrera and moving him to third?

shit, you guys have done a nice job complaining about this one.

If A-Rod announced his retirement next week, and kept his promise, that’d be a massive PR boost for him, no?  A word like “classy” might even get used? 

Seriously, though, this is terrible.  Extensive rehab, combined with the self-delusion all great athletes need to be capable of, means we could easily see him giving us a total of 150 games of suck over the next three years at 20M per season.  Whereas if it were obviously just a straight loss of bat speed age thing, he’d suck it up and retire.

[77] Is that like a pre-surgery strengthening thing?

With a collie, once both hips go, you’re starting up the minivan for that last car ride….

If A-Rod really couldn’t play anymore, I expect he’d negotiate some kind of buyout package, just like insanely overpaid college football coaches do.

By the way, SG, don’t know if you follow the Bulls, but UB’s coach just got three more years as a thank you for all the losing.

I thought they’d bring back Turner Gill.

Don’t follow all that closely, but I hear things.

Peter Abraham would have an absolute field day with the Hipgate cover up if he were still following NYY.

Also, I would take the $20M. Who gives a shit if the fans hate you? These are the same fans that didn’t even cheer for Jorge during what was obviously his last AB as a Yankee, and the same ones that booed Arod mercilessly for years.

[85] I’m pretty sure it was because the fans that go to the games nowadays are too busy checking their blackberries.

64,65:Arod could get into the stock market.  Maybe we can trade him to Goldman Sachs.

Also, I would take the $20M. Who gives a shit if the fans hate you? These are the same fans that didn’t even cheer for Jorge during what was obviously his last AB as a Yankee, and the same ones that booed Arod mercilessly for years.

If he retired instead of taking the money they’d hate him for being that stupid. 

He’s a hateable guy for whatever reason.  He shouldn’t retire if he can’t play any more.  I see no reason for him to let the team off the hook for its stupidity.

Would they ever seriously consider trading Cano, Grando, Hughes, and anyone else of value? Maybe at the deadline?

I think he SHOULD take the money—(except my selfish Yankee fan self, that is)—but I feel like he might be needy enough to think along the lines of #79…..

[84]  I’m an exclusive source.

I dunno.  It seems pretty clear A-Rod is driven to succeed—where I don’t think Dykstra was, he just wanted the money.  Is that drive strong enough that he’d struggle through five years of increasingly poor health and limited playing time?  (I mean poor health in the elite-athlete sense.)  And I do think a big part of him wants to be liked; maybe that would help drive him to keep on trying to play. 

On the other hand there are no fans to cheer you on an exercise bike, and Tampa is not the most exciting place to be.  Maybe he rehabs part-time in New York, but if he does ANYTHING for fun he’ll be all over the back pages.  Even a matinee of Annie.

Look, say what you want about PEDs, but he cared enough to try to be better than he already was.

[52] The position adjustments are the same for a 3B and a 2B.  That’s one of the reasons that I think they should move him to 3rd.  There’s some question of his playing defense, there, but (in theory) due to his arm strength he should be as good at 3rd as second.  Of course, this makes the most sense in a long-term strategy.  That is, if they are serious about resigning Cano no matter what (now or next year) there’s a lot of value in moving him to 3rd, and seeing if Joseph or Adams is the answer.  Another potential issue is if they feel Joseph is more likely to succeed than Adams; Jospeh likely can’t play 3rd.  Finally…there is some time, if they aren’t going to go big and get a 3B soon.  When ARod has the surgery, they may get a better idea of how long he should be out.  If docs think he’ll be back in early May (best case), they may just muddle through April.  If the entire season is in jeopardy…

Would they ever seriously consider trading Cano, Grando, Hughes, and anyone else of value? Maybe at the deadline?

This year more than ever I think it’s possible.  They’ve never really operated with a key objective of having their payroll below a certain amount before, and if they’re not in realistic contention by the All Star Break I could see them trading guys off.

I still think the likelihood is small.  And knowing them they’ll trade for a bunch of pitchers who’ll have labrum or UCL tears if they trade for anything.  But it seems more feasible than it ever has before.

[55] The issue is which puts the most stress on his hips right?  Quick lateral movements at 3B, or more sprinting in the OF?  I’d guess 3B is more stress.  But I really don’t know for sure.  If RF is less stress, I think it makes sense.  If it isn’t, then it doesn’t.

[68, 74, & 75] Reading more, it sounds like over a month ago he had an MRI and it didn’t show anything.  So they tried for rest and rehab.  He wasn’t recovering so they tried further testing, and it uncovered the problem.  The reason the surger isn’t going to be until January is they want him to strengthen the muscles around the area beforehand.  I believe they did something similar with Mo’s knee.

Honestly, most of the complaints are just uninformed complaining.  I don’t claim to be necessarily more informed.  I’m uninformed too, which is why I’m not complaining.

Wasn’t that move chalked up to Hal’s stunning business acumen, if I recall?

I know the deal was mostly George and Hank (who at the time was in line to take over), telling Cashman, “get it done”, after ARod met with them at George’s home.  Perhaps Hal had something to do with shaping the contract, and the bonuses, which in retrospect may have been very smart…

Would the team be any different if Steve Swindal hadn’t gone all Joba/Pineda?

[95] - Why do they constantly keep missing things on MRI’s?  (I’m half serious so I do get your point).

[89 & 93] What’s the point?  They still have A-Rod, Teix, and C.C. under contract for the next 5 or so and there isn’t a ton of talent on the free agent market to rebuild.  So what would you do with the money? 

I don’t think it would net a ton in prospects.  Cano and Granderson aren’t exactly cheap an only signed for 1 more year (well half if you are talking about trading them at the deadline).  Same with Hughes.  How much is he worth for half a year?  What you’d have to do is trade guys like Gardner (who is getting into arb years an just missed all of last season), Nova, Phelps, Robertson, etc… in order to get a decent return in prospects.

Are you looking to tank for the draft picks to start the rebuilding process?

3B not found.  (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail…?

Honestly, most of the complaints are just uninformed complaining.

Doesn’t that describe 99% of the posts here?

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