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Friday, January 7, 2011

Lohud: Jennings: Cashman: “I will not lose our No. 1 draft pick”

Essentially taking himself out of the running for Rafael Soriano, Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said this afternoon that he absolutely will not make a move that costs the Yankees their top draft pick.

“I will not lose our No. 1 draft pick,” Cashman said. “I would have for Cliff Lee. I won’t lose our No. 1 draft pick for anyone else.”

I think this is the smart move.  Lee was worth losing the pick for, but it’s tough to see someone like Soriano being worth enough over what the Yankees have in-house to justify not just losing their first round pick, but losing it to a division rival in what most are calling one of the deepest drafts in recent memory.  And that’s one hell of a run-on sentence but I’m just killing time until happy hour so I’m not going to edit it.

--Posted at 4:30 pm by SG / 33 Comments | - (0)

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“And that’s one hell of a run-on sentence but I’m just killing time until happy hour so I’m not going to edit it.
—Posted at 5:30 pm”

When’s happy hour in your corner of the universe?

Usually around 6pm, although there are some places that start at 5.

Posturing to drive the price and length down or for real?

Who is Cliff Lee?

Man, who the heck is going to give up a first round pick for Soriano?

[6]
Some team that only has a supplemental to give?
What would the Phils have to give up at this point?

There’s also that ‘sign and trade’ scenario. Seems more likely that, worst case, some closer will get injured and he’ll get a job in ST.

[9]  I was thinking about that too, but does it really happen in baseball?  (sign and trade, not ST inuries)

Didn’t it happen with whats his name? I know - you can’t buy this kind of analysis.

Sign and trade is pretty much explicitly barred by MLB’s CBA.  You can’t trade a newly signed free agent until after June 15 (IIRC), and if it was a multi-year contract that he signed, then he can demand a trade from the team you just traded him to.

I’d roll the dice and drive the draft pick to the airport.

There’s hardly a guarantee that a draft pick is ever going to be better than Soriano is likely to be. And this is a win-now roster.

He’s also a Boras guy and wants 3/30

Yankees 1st rounders since 2003

Eric Duncan
Phil Hughes
Jonathan Poterson
Jeffrey Marquez
Carl Henry
IPK/Joba
Brackman
Gerrit Cole
Jeremy Bleich
Slade Heathcott
Cito Culver

A couple decent pieces (Hughes and Joba), some good trade bait (Henry, Marquez, IPK), some yet to be decided, some busts. Maybe a 1st round pick is worth less to the Yanks because of where they draft.

Man, there were some shitty first rounders before that. Who the hell is Jon Skaggs???

There’s hardly a guarantee that a draft pick is ever going to be better than Soriano is likely to be. And this is a win-now roster.

There’s no guarantees about anything, including Soriano.

If you can’t win-now, you shouldn’t pretend you can win now, otherwise you end up never winning.

Sign and trade is pretty much explicitly barred by MLB’s CBA.  You can’t trade a newly signed free agent until after June 15 (IIRC), and if it was a multi-year contract that he signed, then he can demand a trade from the team you just traded him to.

I could be wrong but I believe it isn’t that you can’t trade a newly signed FA but rather that you need his permission to do so.

He’s also a Boras guy and wants 3/30

Is 3/30 crazy for a guy like Soriano?

Let’s say he’s a 6.0 WAR (and a highly leveraged WAR) over those three years. Isn’t that worth $30? What is a win worth to the Yankees? $5 million? Or is it less?

Now, 3/30 and a first rounder…yeah…that’s kinda rough.

I think giving a three year contract to a non-Mo reliever is one of the seven deadly sins, but 3/30 isn’t too ridiculous for Soriano, even though it doesn’t leave much of a possibility for surplus value.

Don’t want to give up a first rounder? Well, try to draft a good position player, then. Give it a shot.

[21] I’m hoping for a corner OF.. Ryan Braun type.

[20]  What are the other 6?

Extending Marte instead of picking up his option
Drafting Jon Skaggs
And four others

Andruw Jones instead of Marcus Thames?

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/08/the-yankees-have-begun-talks-with-andruw-jones/

That would be hard to root for.  My impression of him from interviews heard it: less unintelligent than Damon and - unlike Damon - solipsistically ungracious.

Then again, I remember those articles about how Gary Sheffield became a universally-liked leader in the clubhouse.

I think WP is the universally liked clubhouse leader here.  SG is like the wise GM.  I’m the cranky backup catcher who can’t hit and no one likes but my defensive game is superb.

FGas, I think I’m going to cry.
But it’s patently obvious to me that the title has to go to OTF on merit.

Boras’s stenographer says we’re still in on Soriano.

I wonder if Heyman reports his compensation from Boras on his tax returns.

I like how the articles read. “Despite the Yankees GM saying ‘I am absolutely not pursuing Soriano’, the Yankees remain in on Soriano.”

Cliff Lee was drafted in the 4th round of the 2000 draft by the Montreal Expos.

How many #1 picks have turned out to be busts?

Despite the sabermath and scout-guessing, it’s all a crap shoot.

With props to m’boy JSterl, “You cannot predict baseball”..  cool hmm

I actually hadn’t heard of Soriano, or forgotten who he was, until this article.

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