The Curse of Jerry Hairston, Jr./Eric Hinske:

Monday, October 9, 2017

Indians (102-60) @ Yankees (91-71), Monday, 10/9/2017, 07:00p ET

Indians: Trevor Bauer (R): (176.1 IP, 4.19 ERA, 3.3 RA-9 WAR) vs. Yankees: Luis Severino (R): (193.1 IP, 2.98 ERA, 5.5 RA-9 WAR)

1. Francisco Lindor (S) SS .273/.337/.505, 5.9 fWAR
2. Jason Kipnis (L) CF .232/.291/.414, 0.7 fWAR
3. Jose Ramirez (S) 2B .318/.374/.583, 6.6 fWAR
4. Jay Bruce (L) RF .248/.331/.477, 2.7 fWAR
5. Carlos Santana (S) 1B .259/.363/.455, 3.0 fWAR
6. Michael Brantley (L) DH .299/.357/.444, 1.6 fWAR
7. Lonnie Chisenhall (L) LF .288/.360/.521, 1.4 fWAR
8. Roberto Perez (R) C .207/.291/.373, 0.5 fWAR
9. Giovanny Urshela (R) 3B .224/.262/.288, -0.5 fWAR
Team Total: 21.9 fWAR

1. Brett Gardner (L) LF .264/.350/.428, 3.8 fWAR
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF .284/.422/.627, 8.2 fWAR
3. Didi Gregorius (L) SS .287/.318/.478, 3.9 fWAR
4. Gary Sanchez (R) C .278/.345/.531, 4.4 fWAR
5. Greg Bird (L) 1B .190/.288/.422, 0.0 fWAR
6. Starlin Castro (R) 2B .300/.338/.454, 1.9 fWAR
7. Chase Headley (S) DH .273/.352/.406, 1.9 fWAR
8. Todd Frazier (R) 3B .222/.365/.423, 3.0 fWAR
9. Aaron Hicks (S) CF .266/.372/.475, 3.3 fWAR
Team Total: 30.4 fWAR

This is probably the last game of the Yankees’ season.  It was mostly fun while it lasted.

--Posted at 3:47 pm by SG / 336 Comments | - (0)


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Francona was never going to walk Judge.

[200]  Took me a minute.  Well done.

Pad some stats, Jidge.

Look at his ABs ugh

holy shit, are umpires instructed to give Judge a strike zone the size of Rhode Island?

that’s the 2nd K looking on a pitch that wasn’t a strike

And there you go. Lost

Just how you draw up 2nd and 3rd one out.

[207] You’re right.  Except it was a ball and Judge correctly took it.

As I’ve said before only some umps should be certified to call balls and strikes.

[206] And he’ll take heat for it, but honestly I don’t know what he is supposed to do. He is taking the right approach to not swing at low off-speed pitches that are outside. If the umps stop giving pitchers that call against him, he’ll be first half Judge all the time, because it’s the only way to get him out consistently.

Judge needs to recognize that they are throwing him away, away 90% of the time.

Judge’s approach has been good so i have a lot of hope. He’s been on the bad end of lots of calls and I don’t know if it’s gonna change until his eye is a little more respected by the umps. Or we get robot umps.

When this series is over, I’d like to see the GD charts on all of Judge’s called strikeouts. That seems like at least four punchouts on balls.

[206] Close enough on

Why would he swing at a pitch 6 inches off the plate? He’s already so big. If he confirms umpire bias that his strike zone is extra large, he’ll eventually be swinging at pitches at his shoelaces.

Betances may as well really commit and get some thick-ass frames.

Will robot umps be programmed to fall for really good pitch framing, etc.?

True - at least 4ks that weren’t. But in every at bat he swings at one pitch not even close; then takes one right over the middle, then gets called out on a borderline pitch.

Oh, Betances. Leadoff walk, seriously?

Betances gonna Betances.  He can’t be trusted at all.

I wish he wouldn’t take the curveballs over the middle. But he has an approach. He’s sticking to it. He’s recognizing all of these pitches.

Oh, Betances.
Now you’ll be needing Tinkers to Evers to Chances.

Jesus, don’t let Betances go another batter.

Oh my. Dellin, can you get an out?

Cooked Betances. Mental trainwreck.

Why, Joe, why? Moron.

Betances can’t see more innings. He’s done until next year.

You can’t give him the tying run, can you?

The Yanks should trade him in the offseason.  For whatever they can get.  He’s terrible.

[226] That would imply the Yankees will A) Hang on here and B) have a lead on Wednesday.

I’m not so sure about A.

Seriously Binder. What’s wrong with you how could you not pull him after the first walk especially considering that wild pitch.  He doesn’t get a leash.  Effing nuts.

If Friday doesn’t get Joe canned bringing in Betances should.indefensable

I mean that wasn’t the worst time to give him a chance (with a short leash). But at this point, if the Yankees make the alcs, you can’t take him.

I would have used him in the 8th. But I would have taken him out after he threw behind the hitter. Joe likes to get loose.

[228] Bring him back, let him feast in April and May, then package him elsewhere.

Who would you put on in his place? Shreeve?

[232] Agreed. Wouldn’t even put him on the roster.

Yeah, giving him a chance was fine. They’re short-staffed in the bullpen, with presumably a tired D-Rob closing. But at the same time, holy shit, Dellin!

It’s actually impressive that his conviction isn’t buckling in the spotlight.

Whether that precludes “adjusting” is another matter.

[235] Literally any player with a pulse would be more likely to be productive going forward than Betances.

Under no circumstances
Do I use betances

I would go to Kahnle

I’ve heard this Kahnle guy strikes people out.

[233] totally agree. At that point it was obvious he didn’t have it.

[235] Anybody?

Is Green still fatigued? Kahnle was up a few times. OK give Betances one batter and if he can’t throw strikes get him the hell out. If we lose this is on Binder.

Wriggle, Tommy. WRIGGLE.

I do agree that it was worth it to give him a chance, with his recent struggles, you have to pull him after the first walk.

Bettances hit 11 guys this year, in 59.2 innings.

That’s more than half of his career total (20 HBP/314.1).

The guy does not know where it is going any more.

I think you could’ve even pulled him at 2-0 to Lindor the way those first two looked.

Been a Betances guy since they drafted him. They cannot trust him in the playoffs now. It was moronic to even give him a shot there.

Imagine if Kahnle had had a clean inning to work with.

ok can almost breathe.

Yay kahnle. Yay Trade with white Sox!



Kahnle!!!!  That was clutch.

He’s a fastball wizard, there’s got to be a twist.



And Bentances - yes, give him a chance; yes, take him out at the FIRST sign of trouble; yes, leave him off the roster for the next series; but no, don’t trade him, at least not for nothing. He was damned good, more than good enough to be worth trying to save.

Green or D-Rob with Chappie backing up?

Kahnle needs to pitch the 9th.

Green to finish it? Or do you stick with kahnle?

I’d stay with kahnle who looked great.

I wouldn’t mind Kahnle closing it out.

But it’s almost certainly D-Rob with Chapman backing him up. Honestly, I wouldn’t be totally shocked if it was Chapman with D-Rob backing him up.

[258] “Green is the 6th / 7th inning guy.  He can’t pitch the 9th.”—Joe Girardi’s brain.

WPA is a good look-at-the-past stat. In 2014 and 2015 betances WPA was over 4.
Last two years is had been 0.5.

Which means he’s been hugely unclutch.

Pitching Betances tonight may have lowered his trade value. It’s confidence but without the control of his out pitch he looks pretty naked.

He’s clearly trying to stay away from Green after how terrible he was in Game 2. I don’t think we see Green unless they get it to Game 5, at which point Green probably comes in early, if need be.

[260] Yeah, I’d stick with Kahnle at least to start. Have Chapman and D-Rob both getting lose just in case but give Kahnle the chance after that inning.

4 run lead. Stay with kahnle. Please??

Who would you give DB’s roster spot to?

I didn’t think Green looked awful in Game 2. He was throwing some good stuff that was getting fouled off. The pitch to Lindor wasn’t even brutally bad. It drifted, but Lindor still had to go get it and was fortunate to bang it off the pole.

[269] I agree that he didn’t look bad, which is why I had no problem with leaving him in to face Lindor. But the simple fact is that he gave up three runs in 1/3 of an inning (plus one inherited runner), so I can see being retroactively worried about his rest and wanting to give him more time off and then hopefully have him available to come in at the first sign of trouble in a theoretical Game 5.

The lead helped to keep Sevvy in the game longer, which was huge.

Nice, he stuck with Kahnle.

Also, for the pace-of-game people:


Baseball takes a lot of attention. You NEED time between pitches, etc. The point isn’t to get less game, or “more game per second.”

It would help - a little, and not much - with games like this one. It would hurt simply watching most ordinary games.

Chappie warming - bad idea!

This seems bad…

Long games

[273] I think we could take a pitch clock to cut down on useless fiddling between pitches.

Trying not to acknowledge the stakes atm.

Chappie threw 30+ pitches yesterday; they need him Wednesday. Please sit down we are up by 4

They’re trying to come up with ways for CC pitching Game 5 to be poetic. Stop. It isn’t there.

Now that’s a centerpiece.


Way to frame it, Gary!

Man, remember how nervous Kahnle looked when he got back to the Yankees? He doesn’t seem nervous any more and it is awesome.

The ump got fooled by that one. oh well

Hooray for kahnle


Kahnle channeled his inner Mo.

Wow.  Kahnle was spectacular.  Shades of Ramiro Mendoza in this one for me snuffing out the rally.

Congratulations to the New York Yankees for advancing to the If Girardi Challenged ALCS.

Yankee bullpen nice and rested for game 5.  Sabathia for 3?

Amazing. Can we beat Kluber?

holy crap, Kahnle.  That was some sick stuff.

A-Rod knows more about baseball than everyone. He’s so great. Papi being there is so pointless.

We won the ALDS already why do they have to play Wednesday?

Amazing. Can we beat Kluber?

Possibly. Not likely to beat a guy like Kluber again, but possibly!

Kahnle, what 22 pitches and 5 K’s to get those six outs?

time for A-Rod to talk some crap to Big Papi on the postgame!!

[291] They basically did on Friday if Binder knew that he had two challenges…

[297] Gleefully shouting “STALLION! STALLION!” at Ortiz to describe Severino’s performance tonight was a pretty solid start.

Cleveland has the home-field, and the comprable-if-not-better offense, and the nasty rested bullpen arms like Miller, and the far and away better starting pitching, but they also have to be feeling a lot more pressure.

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