Wednesday, June 27, 2012
How much does losing Andy Pettitte cost the Yankees?
Andy Pettitte is expected to miss at least six weeks with his fractured ankle, which means a return to the starting rotation for Freddy Garcia. Garcia made four awful starts before being demoted but has had better results coming out of the bullpen in mostly low leverage situations.
| Dates | g | gs | ip | bf | h | r | er | hr | bb | hbp | so | era |
| 4/10 - 4/28 | 4 | 4 | 13.7 | 70 | 25 | 20 | 19 | 3 | 5 | 1 | 11 | 12.51 |
| 5/2 - 6/27 | 10 | 0 | 17.3 | 67 | 12 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 12 | 1.56 |
| Dates | ra | fip | xfip | babip | gb% | fb% | ld% | iffb% | hr/fb | bb/bf | k/bf | FBv |
| 4/10 - 4/28 | 13.17 | 5.56 | 4.07 | .431 | 31.5% | 24.1% | 40.7% | 3.7% | 23.1% | 7.1% | 15.7% | 86.8 |
| 5/2 - 6/27 | 2.08 | 2.88 | 3.70 | .204 | 41.8% | 34.5% | 12.7% | 10.9% | 5.3% | 4.5% | 17.9% | 88.6 |
fip: Fielding-independent pitching
xfip: Expected fielding-independent pitching
bb/bf: walks and hbp per batters faced
k/bf: strikeouts per batters faced
babip: Batting average on balls in play against
ld%: Percentage of batted balls that were line drives
gb%: Percentage of batted balls that were ground balls
fb%: Percentage of batted balls that were fly balls
iffb%: Percentage of batted balls that were infield flies
FBv: Average fastball velocity
We know relieving is easier than starting,, and that Garcia probably won’t have the same velocity that he’s had out of the pen. We can also assume that he won’t have a BABIP against of .204 and a HR/FB rate of 5.3% in his return to starting. But there’s more evidence that he’ll pitch decently than there is that he’ll be the 12.5+ ERA disaster he was in April.
I’m going to assume Pettitte won’t pitch for eight weeks as of today which puts his return around August 22. Picking eight weeks gives me 50 Yankee games, which lets me use a nice round number of 10 starts for Garcia instead of Pettitte. Here are their revised CAIRO projections for the rest of the season which include what they’ve done so far in 2012.
| player | projection | G | GS | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | HBP | SO | RA | ERA | FIP | RAR | WAR |
| Andy Pettitte | ROY | 10 | 10 | 60 | 58 | 26 | 24 | 6 | 18 | 1 | 49 | 3.93 | 3.58 | 3.59 | 14 | 1.4 |
| Freddy Garcia | ROY | 10 | 10 | 53 | 58 | 27 | 26 | 6 | 14 | 1 | 36 | 4.62 | 4.32 | 3.93 | 9 | 0.9 |
RAR: Runs saved above replacement level using RA
WAR: Wins above replacement level (RAR divided by 10)
If you fill the innings gap between the two with replacement level pitching, the Yankees lose about 1/2 win based on these projections.
But what if you think CAIRO’s insane and is overrating Garcia, underating Pettitte, or both? The first thing I’d say is if that’s what you think, this is probably not the blog for you. But let’s run with it anyway.
If Pettitte’s a 3.22 ERA pitcher now and Garcia’s a 6.39 ERA pitcher and they both pitched 60 innings, Pettitte would allow 21 runs and Garcia would allow 43. That’s a two win drop.
That’s not a realistic scenario, because if Garcia is a 6.39 ERA pitcher now, he won’t get 10 more starts. Those starts would probably go to someone like David Phelps or Adam Warren depending on how he does in his debut. But I think Garcia will be ok. Not great, but good enough. Even if he’s a win worse than Pettitte over 10 games it shouldn’t be a huge issue.
I’m more disappointed that we won’t get to see Pettitte for a few months, because his comeback has been a lot of fun to watch. I don’t think losing him now is going to hurt the team all that much, especially if CC Sabathia returns as soon as he can from the DL. And who knows, maybe six to eight weeks off will give Pettitte a better chance of being strong through the end of the year?
I’ve been concerned about how long Pettitte would be able to pitch effectively since he only pitched 129 innings in 2010 and obviously threw none in 2011. If by some miracle the Yankees steal the second wild card it’d be nice to have a full-strength Pettitte in the postseason rotation.
Comments
Is there a silver lining in this ? Pettitte was unlikely to last the full season and postseason without injury anyway. This is a forced shutdown for his arm and other consumables.
He could return for a strong September-October run. And we’ll get just enough Joba in the 4 week span from his return to Pettitte’s. Just enough time to dominate and then implode.
I wouldn’t stand near Hughes or Kuroda the next few weeks, though.
Someone didn’t read the whole post.
I wonder if the Sox will take this opportunity to trade back for Youkilis.

Great work as always, SG. I have this weird feeling Garcia is going to be absolutely nails for a month or so.
After the game I saw a comment by RAB about preferring a healthy Andy to today’s win, and I thought, that’s probably wrong. Glad to see my guess backed up by expertise.
[2] Just because I forgot where I got the idea from, doesn’t mean I didn’t think I thought of it myself.
[5] I have to agree with the healthy Andy over a win sentiment from RAB. In a vacuum, sure, but 4 hours after the CC news, terrible. Maybe it works out fine that Garcia and Warren and Phelps are all great for the period CC and Andy are out, but there’s no way this is a good thing.
I’m more disappointed that we won’t get to see Pettitte for a few months, because his comeback has been a lot of fun to watch.
This, really.
RAB put together an estimated rotation for the remainder of the pre-AS break season. My favorite part:
•Saturday, 7/7 @ Red Sox (doubleheader): Hughes and Garcia
Is it too soon to congratulate Boston on their 2012 AL East title?
[10] A little…maybe wait until Monday.
Why isn’t Phelps stretched out?
[12] They determined that with how much work he had in the pen they need to move him slowly I guess. Up to 3.1 IP last time; IDK how many pitches. Reasonable that next outing (Saturday) he could be up to 5IP…in A ball. So probably first Pettitte start after the AS game Phelps would be available as a starter.
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