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Tuesday, July 10, 2012

2012 Yankee Position Player Projections vs. Actuals at the All Star Break Part 3

Rounding out our look at the Yankee position players and their actual performance compared to their projections, we come to the Shockmaster, Raul Ibanez.  I didn’t think Ibanez would make it to the All Star Break, but here he is.

Projection PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO GDP HBP avg obp slg wOBA BR BR/650 BRAR
cairo 242 218 30 58 14 1 9 35 2 1 21 44 6 1 .266 .329 .458 .340 32 85 5
davenport 242 222 28 58 13 1 9 30 1 1 20 44 8 0 .261 .321 .457 .337 31 83 3
marcel 242 218 29 55 13 1 8 33 2 0 20 46 6 1 .254 .314 .439 .325 30 79 3
oliver 242 219 26 54 12 1 7 29 1 0 19 44 6 0 .245 .303 .403 .308 26 70 0
pecota 242 222 29 55 12 1 7 29 1 0 19 48 6 1 .249 .310 .413 .317 27 73 1
zips 242 221 28 56 13 1 8 37 1 0 18 44 5 0 .253 .307 .427 .318 28 76 2
average 242 218 30 58 13 1 8 32 1 1 19 45 6 1 .266 .323 .446 .332 30 81 4
2012 242 221 26 53 13 1 11 26 3 0 17 31 7 2 .240 .298 .457 .323 30 81 4

Ibanez hasn’t been great, but he’s been about as good as a player can be while having a sub .300 OBP.  He’s traded some singles for HRs and has had some clutch hits.  Still, you generally want better out of your DH than a .298 OBP.  He’s been pressed into a lot more time in LF than the Yankees probably hoped for with Brett Gardner missing just about the entire season, and while he hasn’t been good out there he’s been a lot less bad than I expected.  DRS has him at -4 and UZR has him at -3.

Russell Martin’s had a very strange season.  For most of the first half he had a decent OBP and passable SLG despite an abysmal batting average, but over the last few weeks he’s fallen off the cliff.

Projection PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO GDP HBP avg obp slg wOBA BR BR/650 BRAR
cairo 243 211 29 53 9 0 6 26 4 2 28 39 7 3 .253 .347 .383 .329 28 76 12
davenport 243 214 27 56 11 1 8 23 4 2 26 38 8 3 .262 .348 .427 .343 31 83 10
marcel 243 212 28 52 9 0 6 25 5 2 26 39 7 3 .248 .335 .368 .317 27 71 10
oliver 243 212 27 52 9 0 5 24 3 1 26 35 8 3 .244 .333 .364 .315 26 69 10
pecota 243 211 30 56 10 0 6 25 5 2 29 35 7 3 .265 .362 .399 .343 30 81 14
zips 243 210 30 52 8 0 6 29 5 2 29 38 7 3 .249 .346 .382 .328 28 75 12
average 243 211 29 53 9 0 6 25 4 2 27 37 7 3 .253 .345 .387 .328 28 76 12
2012 243 207 21 37 11 0 8 21 1 0 30 49 6 6 .179 .300 .348 .294 24 63 7
diff -8 -16 2 0 2 -4 -3 -2 3 12 -1 3 -.074 -.044 -.040 -.034

Martin actually has more doubles and homers than he projected to have on a rate basis, and he’s walked a few times more than expected.  Unfortunately for him he’s missing a bunch of singles and that makes his season line look pretty crappy.  I don’t know if he’s lost his ability to hit singles or if he’s hit into some bad luck although I’d lean more towards the latter.  He’s still probably the best catcher in this organization for the next three months so let’s hope he hits a bit better in the second half.

Thanks to two days in a disgraceful bandbox, Andruw Jones’s season suddenly looks a lot better than it did on Friday. 

Projection PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO GDP HBP avg obp slg wOBA BR BR/650 BRAR
cairo 144 124 17 27 6 0 6 19 2 1 17 35 4 1 .221 .318 .413 .321 17 76 3
davenport 144 126 17 30 6 0 7 17 1 0 17 33 4 1 .240 .337 .471 .351 20 89 5
marcel 144 124 17 29 6 0 7 19 3 1 17 33 4 1 .236 .328 .451 .338 19 85 5
oliver 144 124 18 29 6 0 7 20 2 1 18 34 4 1 .232 .331 .445 .338 18 83 5
pecota 144 126 17 28 6 0 6 17 2 1 17 35 4 1 .220 .317 .410 .321 17 75 3
zips 144 124 17 29 6 0 7 21 2 1 18 36 4 1 .234 .335 .455 .344 19 86 5
average 144 124 17 27 6 0 7 19 2 1 17 34 4 1 .221 .319 .433 .327 18 80 4
2012 144 127 16 31 4 0 11 16 0 0 14 40 1 2 .244 .326 .535 .364 22 99 8
diff -1 4 -2 0 4 -3 -2 -1 -3 6 -3 1 .023 .008 .103 .036

He’s probably made a case for a bit more playing time in LF and at DH against RHP, so I think we’ll see him a bit more in the second half.

I wasn’t a big fan of re-signing Eric Chavez, but he’s been quite good in his role as primary backup 3B.

Projection PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO GDP HBP avg obp slg wOBA BR BR/650 BRAR
cairo 146 133 14 32 7 0 2 17 1 0 11 31 3 0 .240 .296 .356 .288 14 60 2
davenport
marcel 146 132 14 33 7 0 2 17 1 0 11 30 3 0 .246 .300 .360 .292 14 62 2
oliver 146 133 14 32 7 1 2 13 1 0 11 30 3 0 .241 .292 .349 .283 13 58 1
pecota 146 134 16 32 7 1 4 15 1 0 12 33 3 0 .239 .302 .379 .301 15 67 3
zips 146 135 12 32 7 0 2 15 0 0 10 31 3 0 .238 .288 .336 .278 12 55 1
average 146 133 14 32 7 0 3 15 1 0 11 31 3 0 .240 .294 .356 .287 14 60 2
2012 146 131 16 37 8 0 7 16 0 0 12 25 4 0 .282 .336 .504 .356 21 94 9
diff 2 5 1 0 4 1 -1 0 1 -6 1 0 .042 .042 .148 .069

While his season could end at any time, he’s already been worth well more than his salary.

I don’t really see the point in running through the projections for the players with fewer than 100 PA so that’s where this ends.  I’ll look at the pitchers over the next few days.

--Posted at 11:05 am by SG / 27 Comments | - (0)

Comments

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It’s funny that Cairo had the most optimistic prediction for the Shockmaster.

[1] Is it? Is it really? We know that CAIRO is inherently biased to favor Yankees. Even if we don’t like said Yankees.

Thank you, Cashman.

Ibanez’s OBP irritates me, but he’s managed to not be a major problem. 

My patience with Martin wears thin.

Chavez, on the other hand, has been really good, which is nice because ARod is now a glorified singles hitter.  wink

[4]
Rob, I’m having trouble remembering the last time he was glorified by anyone.
Reggie?

I don’t generally think baseball players are role models but based on that recent article it’s damn near heroic what Chavey has to do just to stay on the field. And then despite all that he’s still managed to produce at such a high level? Slow clap, my friend.

based on that recent article it’s damn near heroic what Chavey has to do just to stay on the field.

Which article?

WSJ (no paywall!): http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304765304577480803911265114.html

[8] - Wow.  Retire now before you can’t get out of bed and spend time with your family.

Thanks Jon!

[9] I don’t know anything about his home life but seems like he really wants to win a ring. They came close several times during the Moneyball era, plus he’s got to feel cheated out of other chances because of his injuries. It would be really nice for the guy if they won it all this year, I bet he would retire then.

No problem Jonathan

My patience with Martin wears thin.

I wrote about this I think yesterday.  But Matin’s BIP distribution appears very similar to what it was last year, but he’s displaying more power (generally, you’d think he’s hitting the ball with more authority), and yet his BABIP is abysmally low.  Seems to be more luck based than anything.  I mean, it’s always possible that he is either crushing pitches (doubles and HR) or hitting the ball very weakly, and nothing in between.  But I don’t find that likely. 

More likely, for rest of year his BABIP will approach last year’s .250ish, and he’ll provide more value.  If he gets a bit more luck than “average”, he could approach last year’s total value, which is ~3 fWAR.

There’s a big uptick in his K rate too.  He’s struck out 12 more times than he projected to over the same # of PA.  There may be more going on here than bad luck.

[13] Sure, I’m sure it’s more than ALL bad luck.  But it’s what now, .193?  If I look at FanGraphs between 2009-2011, all players with at least 200 PA in a season, only two had lower BABIPs - Tyler Covin and Brandon Wood.  Who both had MUCH lower BB% and considerably higher K%, and other peripherals that were more consistent with a lower BABIP.  So I have difficulty believing that Martin is one of the worst hitters w/rt BABIP over the past 3 years, especially as his peripherals are better.

Maybe .250 isn’t his true talent BABIP any more.  Maybe it’s more like .230.  Still, if he keeps walking and hitting for power and only gets a .035 bump in BABIP ROS, he’s probably above average for a catcher.

If I look at FanGraphs between 2009-2011, all players with at least 200 PA in a season, only two had lower BABIPs

I don’t disagree with your general point, but selection bias is an issue with something like this.  You won’t see a lot of players with lower BABIP and at least 200 PA in a season because those players get benched.  Are Colvin and Wood even in the majors at this point?

Martin’s probably not a .193 hitter, but he clearly isn’t even a .250 hitter anymore either. But as SG noted, not much to be done about it in the near term

Colvin’s having a monster year in Coors.  Wood’s playing for AAA Colorado Springs and is having a non-monster year there.

[15] Sure, I relize the selection bias issue.  But then you also have to be careful of the SSS issues right?  If I lower the threshold to 100PA I may also get guys who just had a run of bad luck but didn’t have the pedigree to be given a chance to turn it around, guys who were injured and DL’d for the year before they turned it around, etc.  I picked 200 because it seemed a good number to pick up guys who MLB thought were good enough to keep getting chances, w/o limiting it too much.

I guess to me Martin has proven himself as a ML quality hitter, he’s not at an age where we expect him to suddenly fall off a cliff, and for the most part his numbers are perfectly in line with prior years.  The extra K’s are a bit of a concern, but he’s also displaying more power and more walks.

[16] Again, FanGraphs has him at I think .8WAR, with +/-0 for defense.  With the poor BABIP.  If you think his true talent BABIP is more like .240 - and he keeps his other numbers similar - he’s probably worth like 1.2 WAR from here out, and he’ll finish the season up as an average C.  Would be nice if he were an All Star, but I’ll take average.

I know, I know.

I miss Posada’s bat is all.

Chavez sounds like Inspector Glokta from _The First Law_ trilogy by Joe Abercrombie, which I strongly recommend to readers of war fiction and fantasy.  Not for the faint of heart.

[20]  Looks interesting but my library’s copy has been stolen.  Is it worth buying?

Also why do you use Soviet Communist underscores instead of normal American quotation marks?

I miss Posada’s bat is all.

So did Posada for most of last year.

[22] That was a standard when I taught myself English, maybe now it’s fallen out of fashion.

[21] I think so.  It’s not the best genre series I’ve read recently but some of the things it does well it does exceptionally well.  Also the trilogy is very consistent in tone and characterization and is very well balanced and shaped, and the quality of the prose (and in large part the plotting) is high.  You might like some of the cinematic aspects.

Who is better, the Yankees or Texas?

(Disregard for current purposes the Sawx’s intrinsic superiority.)

[26] Pretty close I think, if you mean, “at this exact moment”.  I like the Yankees better if they can start getting back some injured players.  Namely, CC and Gardner this month, hopefully Joba next month, and Pettitte right after.  I think Texas may have some injuries as well, but not as familiar with them off the top of my head.

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